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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:20 PM
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"John Kerry INVITED These Attacks By Making His Service an Issue"
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 09:27 PM by The Nation
WHY IS THE MEDIA ASKING THAT QUESTION?

The news anchor on CNN right now basically just poised the question, Did John Kerry INVITE these attacks on his war record by making it such an issue in his campaign.

OKAY, we have officially entered the twilight zone folks KERRY is now being blamed for the fact that PEOPLE HAVE LIED IN ATTACKING HIM, because he has a war record.

This is like a rapist taking the defense that the victim was dressing sexy so that meant she was asking for it.

I guess it would be better if he DIDN'T have a war record, like dubya? :shrug:
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:22 PM
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1. That's not a question.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:22 PM
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2. Me teach, I know! I know!
Because the programming staff is headed by a bunch of morans?

Do I win? do I? Do I???
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highnooner Donating Member (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:27 PM
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3. The Bush Campaign started it
IIRC, it was the Bush campaign that originally started the issue of VN war records. Like Kerry said, "Bring it on!"
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:28 PM
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4. I have a question for the "media"
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 09:30 PM by MODemocrat
Why did the media make a big 24/7 deal out of Bill Clinton's not being in the military? They labeled him a draft dodger, which is was not. My son had a high selective service number during that conflict, and did not enlist because he was married with twin daughters. That did not make him a draft dodger.
I refuse to watch television anymore because it makes me sick to look at most of the news people running around like a bunch of monkies.
:evilgrin: :puke:
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:28 PM
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5. Did it ever occur to anyone that Kerry actually WANTS these dipshits...
...to attack his record.

Die-hard Bush supporters will swallow everything the Swifties say with relish. To any objective observer, they look like pathetic tools of a desperate incumbent with no record to run on.

The Swifite campaign stinks and the scent will rub off on Bush.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:55 PM
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9. This way service in Vietnam becomes a campaign issue.
Which brings us back to *.
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jjmalonejr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:56 PM
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16. Yup
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:29 PM
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6. So because bush is hiding what he did during the Viet Nam
War..he shouldn't be questioned?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:36 PM
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7. He Did Do That, Sir
Edited on Thu Aug-19-04 09:37 PM by The Magistrate
And the enemy has rather obligingly forgotten the wisdom that if the way seems open into a defended zone, there is probably a kill box waiting for you.

Sen. Kerry wins any day when the focus is on his Viet Nam service. Most undecided voters view these advertisements as a smear job, and those committed to Sen. Kerry are enraged by them. Leading media figures are beginning to dismantle the lies. The trail back to the Republican campaign apparatus is being clearly marked. The cry that the usurper denounce these smears will continue so long as they do. They open the way for discusson of his evasion of service. His refusal to denounce the smears, and his evasion of service himself, opens up the whole field of personal character, the most important determination in a Presidential vote, with consequences certain to be of benefit to our side.

"The key is to take up positions with so great a strategic potential for attack that the enemy is force to attack us in them."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:58 PM
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10. Sometimes I think the most they're really hoping for is
for people to throw their hands up and say, "Oh, what does it matter what they did way back then? Let's leave it all out of the equation!" In which case, of course, an area where Kerry is wayyyy ahead become level ground.

That's why I'm worried by all the "We'll never know for sure's," as well as the need, on our side, to focus on today's issues and yet keep this battle fought.

My hope is it backfires on the RNC, with each attack hurting them more than helping -- and *then* it'll stop.
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:35 PM
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15. What does it matter
Really now, does it really matter? This election should be about ideas. I don't really care which one may have earned multiple combat medals after volunteering to fight overseas and which one was unaccountable during part of his stateside service that his powerful family got him. I don't think it matters which one tried to end the war that he saw was unjust and which one had a problem with cocaine. For that matter I don't really care which of their wifes told a reporter to shove it and which one was never charge after the running a stop sign and killing a highschool classmate.

This should be a campaign of ideas.
<sacasam fro the humor impaired>

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:09 PM
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13. Indeed, indeed, my good Magistrate...
One ignores the wisdom of Sun Tzu only at his own peril.

I misdoubt me not that Mr. Kerry has perused the Art of War, while the Simian Pretender is still trying to wrap his prehensile lips around "Sun Who?"
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 11:25 PM
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17. altogether now "So, just what war did you serve in Mr. Bush?"
debate bait.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 09:48 PM
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8. Funny, I don't EVER recall Kerry making it an issue, not even in the
primaries--and I WASN:T a Kerry supporter in the primes.

It's crap.
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:03 PM
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11. Watching Hardball...
...it is a shame when they're reporting on this story, they have to keep replaying the ad.

I haven't seen any punditry on the MoveOn ad (not to say there wasn't), but when they do, do they play the whole MoveOn ad in the interest of reporting.

(Listening to that asswipe Thurlow on Kerry now, John Kerry had a "master plan" back in Vietnam).
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:04 PM
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12. Without bringing his service to the front, he was going to be labeled as
weak on defense. His service meant that the Repugs couldn't pin the liberal softie lable on him. He cut that off quickly.

Remember how they went after his service record. Kerry baited them in by refusing to make it public. Then when they took the bait he hammered both the Repugs and the media. Actually, this might be better to draw them out early, rather than have this swift boat stuff come out in October.

Now Kerry waits until Bush* goes on vacation and hammers the Bush/Cheney campaign while they don't have any events to use on him. Kerry has a week to go unchallenged on this topic. He may force Bush* to have to come out of Crawford this week.

Me thinks that we are being led by one very bright guy, who is in complete control of the situation. So far, so good.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-19-04 10:10 PM
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14. Bogus bullshit
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