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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 11:13 PM Original message |
McCain was a total fuckup in the Navy |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. The m$$fm is good at covering up military fuckups |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. It'd be like electing Gen Custer president, huh ? In the meantime... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
59. Yeah, like Colonel Sanders in charge of |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #44 |
71. Please don't say things like that |
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bigbrother05 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
99. Aggressive isn't the half of it |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
95. Or another George W.Bush?Handed everything & accomplishing |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #95 |
104. Exactly... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #95 |
117. That's right, one of Sean Hannity's screaming points is Obama hasn't "accomplished" anything |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. Won't matter - DUers will still defend him. They like ripping Obama more. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
50. shhh! you're not supposed to critically review someone's military |
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Kdillard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. Kicking |
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NattPang (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
4. That's the last thing we need; another f*ckup! |
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Masterofarts11 (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yes He was bottom of his class |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. He was also at the bottom of the ocean |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. and the bottom of the barrel. |
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nikto (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
60. Gosh, are we... |
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nikto (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Oh, I forgot... |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
92. Not exactly the bottom |
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FMArouet (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. A meme: bottom one-percenter |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
121. when mediocrity is not enough |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
7. This is not "news"...... |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. I'm thinking late October |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. Ok, so . . . |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
119. You have obiously never |
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-06-08 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
9. CNN was talking about it two days ago |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. Hmm - let's see: a party-boy, a no-show, a wanton flirt, not too bright in school, somehow |
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Loubonilla (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
73. McCain was below average |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
10. Also from the article |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
12. and quite possibly a traitor as well. nt. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. From OP article - bet most of us would've signed that confession as well |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. he divulged information to the enemy before he was tortured. nt. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. And how exactly do we know that? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. because he wrote an article and a book stating as much. nt. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. This discussion has no relevance to the campaign. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Sure it does. Everything McCain has said or done has relevance when running for President. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
67. While his behavior as a pow may not disqualify him for Pres office, it sure as hell does nothing |
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1Hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. His supporters would disagree - "at least he served." What did Obama do?" Can't you hear that BS? |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Since he was born in 1961, he would not have served in Nam. |
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1Hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Other conflicts since Nam...... n/t |
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raebrek (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 07:02 AM Response to Reply #14 |
110. One of the problems from previous wars |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:11 AM Response to Original message |
13. k*r Thanks Steve |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Watch the movie Idiocracy... |
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RNdaSilva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
15. Could make a "fun" r-rated movie...one of these days. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
17. What McCain defenders? |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
18. He was also good a crashing planes |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
51. Three for sure |
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BearSquirrel2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. He crashed 3 ... |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
65. On the Forrestal there was no plane behind McCain's |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. The official report doesn't say that. |
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caraher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #70 |
106. How do we get this report? My understanding is that it's classified. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #70 |
115. Major, I would love to see that report. Apparently you have seen it. Where do I go to get a look?? |
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BearSquirrel2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. I saw the video as well ... |
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1Hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. Go to McBomb's website - he is actually NARRATING the Forestal incident.. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
19. Yes, McCain was a total fuckup in the Navy. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:30 AM Response to Original message |
20. Great post. McCain has a long history of fucking up and then lying about it later. |
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Tutonic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
21. Still fixated on women--remember Vicki? Also he has a serious |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
22. WWTB |
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NatBurner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
23. figures. |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
24. Sounds like 21st century presidential material to me. |
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dccrossman (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
25. K&R |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
26. Graduated 5th from the bottom of 880!!! This should be on the table, HOW DID HE GET A PLANE? |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
58. That jumped out at me too |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
64. He was the only little fart small enough to fit the last flight suit they had available? |
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Seedersandleechers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
75. Actually it was |
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Misskittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
28. The personality of a military pilot is likely ill-suited for the presidency. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. Bush, Rumsfeld and Gen. Myers - all pilots - decided invading Iraq was a Good Idea. NOT. nt |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
113. McCain was not unskilled as a pilot |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
29. By all means, keep trashing McCain's military service....... |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Getting the truth out is not "trashing". |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Truth? We got the truth out on Bush's ANG service and what happened?......nt |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Not much, but that's no reason to suppress the truth. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Look all over this board...much more wrong with McCain than questions about his service.... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
45. Correct. Just like Randy 'Duke' Cunningham, it's his connections to corruption |
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speedoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
30. K&R. Thanks for posting this. |
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bow-tie (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
32. Sounds just what the |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
37. another fratboy we do not need another one in the WH. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
38. He wrote about that in his book.... |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
39. And, what does the fact that the Repukes nominated him |
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kmac3 (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
41. His prisoner of war story gets bigger and better with age . . . . |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
46. WHY do so many writers mention height??? |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Stature. Not height. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. No, they mentioned height of his father and grandfather. Stephen Hunter also mentioned... |
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1Hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. Definition of Napoleon Syndrome below: |
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obamacon (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:20 AM Response to Reply #79 |
109. LOL |
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1Hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 07:30 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. "..used outside of medicine to refer to a combination of phenomena seen in association..." |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
89. Look, I personally don't care how tall McCain or you or anyone else is. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. For president, we nearly always vote for the visibly taller candidate... |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. True, but what's your point? |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
48. WHY DOES THE NAVY HAVE GLASS-BOTTOM BOATS... to keep an eye on McCain's bomber |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
49. He would have to be a dumb fuckup to buy into the crap he is |
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santamargarita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
53. Yes! Absolute Fact - And a Total Asshole! |
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LuckyLib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
56. "a tough, mean little fucker" -- listed as 5'6" -- no doubt actually shorter. |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
57. The prefect rePUKE/neocon corporate fascist pawn |
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jimshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
61. Join the GOP, the only place where |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
66. While I think McAnus is a sorry piece of shit I have to agree with RamboLiberal about his |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
72. Michelle Bernard said McCain's war experience will be highly celebrated at the GOP convention |
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janetblond (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Always on the edge of flunking out, McCain finished fifth from last in his class. |
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Moosepoop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Speaking of class... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #74 |
100. Hmph, here's how they'll spin that: |
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1Hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Bingo! |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #72 |
90. That's all they have |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
81. K&R! |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
83. And to think I thought we were better than this.With all the things wrong with Mccain this is what |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. saracat, I beseech you. This is war! |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Steve, this is dangerous territory |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Okay, I've thought about it. |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #97 |
101. My husband. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #83 |
105. When he's running on that military experience, you bet your ass we need to go after it. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #105 |
122. I know people who are supporting him ONLY on his military "experience" |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
84. Now coming to a station near you! McCain's Navy! loveable group of fuckups |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
85. *giggles* er, um, I mean... |
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minnesota_liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
86. It doesn't matter unless Obama can say it without alienating vets |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
88. Wow, he really IS just like Bush! |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-07-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. wifey jus said same thing ! |
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LaStrega (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
102. Well, these guys certainly have a right to talk ... |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Nice group... |
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LaStrega (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 02:21 AM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Meh ... whatevah. |
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obamacon (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 03:10 AM Response to Original message |
108. I really don't think this is going anywhere |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
112. Well, if you had listened to NPR this morning you'd know that McAnus was a |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #112 |
120. That's why I haven't listened to NPR much in the past 7 years. |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
114. I wonder how many other Navy pilots could crash 3 planes |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-08-08 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
116. Obama's surrogates (sorta like Gen. Clarke) should be hitting McAnus' military record |
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