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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:18 PM
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WOW!!! A Swifty liar was listed on Bush campaign page until 8/19!
Edited on Sat Aug-21-04 12:45 PM by Skinner
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2004_08_15_digbysblog_archive.html#109305446449877913

Blogger Digby has found a google cache that shows swifty liar Ken Cordier was part of the Bush campaign as recently as August 19!

He's on the steering committee of the Bush Cheney 2004 Veterans for Bush! You can see the cache here:

click this link to see Google cache

Cordier's name has been removed from the current page!

http://www.georgewbush.com/Veterans/SteeringCommittee.aspx

EDITED BY ADMIN TO FIX LINK.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:20 PM
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1. another smoking gun??
This is a lesson, pals.

Always remember the power of looking for unprotected or hidden or removed pages on web sites. Remember BBV. Remember this now, too.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:22 PM
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2. Fascinating, isn't it...
...I hope someone from the Kerry campaign caught that. I think it's very telling that:

a) he was on the official Bush Cheney 2004 site as member of steering committee for Veterans for Bush 2004

b) he was removed as soon as the FEC suit was filed

Gee, you think they might realize that they are FUCKIN STUPID yet? A guy on the STEERING COMMITTEE for Bush/Cheney2004 Veterans for Bush participates in a slanderous "independent, non-partisan" Swiftsmears for Bush ad campaign. Hmmm, what are the odds...
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:22 PM
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3. Deeper and deeper and deeper... The NYT expose was
Edited on Sat Aug-21-04 12:28 PM by blondeatlast
published online just slightly before midnight ET on 8/19.

Coincidence? :evilgrin:

Edit: the name is there, then it ain't. I checked. Damn.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:25 PM
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4. someone actively removed that name
and did it yesterday or today.

Will some reporter ask the Bush campaign who removed it, and why?

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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:31 PM
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Evil laugh
This is just too good to be true.
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:31 PM
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5. Evil laugh
This is just too good to be true.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:33 PM
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6. That link doesn't work, try this one
Here's a link for the google cache of the page that should work.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:37 PM
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7. Here is the google link to the cache
Edited on Sat Aug-21-04 12:37 PM by Skinner
Just to make it clear that this really is from google, here's
the link. Cut and paste into your browser:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.georgewbush.com%2FVeterans%2FSteeringCommittee.aspx+%22kenneth+cordier%22&btnG=Google+Search
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:39 PM
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8. Thanks, Skinner, I was a bit nervous that there might be
accusations of editing.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:26 PM
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34. Is it from the 19th or the 2nd?
the screen capture down the thread shows the 2nd

I don't remember what it said when I first looked at it
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:41 PM
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9. I added this to our homepage.
That is too good. :)
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:46 PM
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10. Everyone SAVE THIS, PROTECT IT, FORWARD IT TO KERRY!
This is evidence of a crime!

This is even more direct coordination between the campaign and the smear group.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:55 PM
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13. And Olberman, Matthews, NYT
and the rest of the mostly comatose media...
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:46 PM
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11. This needs to be seen by everyone:
:kick:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:53 PM
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12. and people say bloggers...
...don't report real news!

Kudos to Digby and to Atrios for linking to Digby.

Spread out, pals. There's gotta be more that can be uncovered!
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:58 PM
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14. Maybe get a screen capture of the cache , lest it get scrubbed
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 12:59 PM
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15. can someone do that?
I always forget how to do a screen capture. It needs to be saved in a bunch of places.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:05 PM
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16. I need to learn that too, I tried once, I know it is easy, yet ....
makes me feel pretty stupid
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:06 PM
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17. I asked in the Lounge with a link to this thread. nt
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. Just hit the Print Screen button
on your keyboard and that copies the image to your clipboard. From there you can paste it anywhere.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:16 PM
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21. I tried that but it only copies what's on the screen
It doesn't print the entire scrolled information. So I couldn't get the Image showing the header and also his name in the list. His name is so far down the list that it didn't copy to my clipboard.

I also did a Screen Capture with PhotoImpact. But it will only capture what's visible on the screen at the time. Same problem as "Screen Print". I'd have to scroll donw and do another screen capture and then knit the images together. Wouldn't that invalidate the capture?
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:15 PM
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20. As I've said before, Bush_Eats_Beef is here to protect and serve






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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:17 PM
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22. Great!
How did you do the screen capture of the entire page all in one shot? I could only capture portions at a time and would have to knit them together. Please advise! Thanks!
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:19 PM
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26. I use "Corel Capture," which is part of Corel Graphics Suite
...This is actually four shots and I'd have to knit 'em together too.

:toast:
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:19 PM
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27. those where multipule screen caps... he posted them consecutively. nt
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:18 PM
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24. Nice!
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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:29 PM
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36. PDF version of the page
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:11 PM
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19. I see Aug 2nd on top, but still
Pretty damning stuff!
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:20 PM
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28. I see that now, when did the ad get released?
that may be important in terms of law
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:30 PM
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39. during or before the dem convention... late july. nt
Edited on Sat Aug-21-04 01:31 PM by LastKnight
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:39 PM
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42. we need a link to the release date
also a link showing when this guy resigned would be good
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:49 PM
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48. i know, im looking for each. not much success. nt
Edited on Sat Aug-21-04 01:50 PM by LastKnight
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 02:32 PM
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57. FactCheck says:
<snip>
"Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" is a group formed March 23 after Kerry wrapped up the Democratic nomination. It held a news conference May 4 denigrating Kerry's military record and his later anti-war pronouncements during the 1970's. The group began running an attack ad Aug. 5 in which 13 veterans variously say Kerry is "not being honest" and "is lying about his record."
<snip>
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=231
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 02:28 PM
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56. Maybe early August ...
<snip>
In August 2004, the group "bought television time in three swing states for an advertisement that attacks Senator John Kerry, accusing him of lying about his war record, including the circumstances surrounding his medals, and betraying his comrades by later opposing the war." One of the SWVT "said the group was spending $500,000 to run the advertisement but would not say how long it would be on the air; a Kerry aide said the buy was far smaller, $156,000 in seven smallish markets like Green Bay, Wis., and Toledo, Ohio, suggesting it was a 'vanity buy' intended to attract news coverage."<11>

The August 4 2004 editions of Fox News Channel's Hannity & Colmes and MSNBC's Scarborough Country dedicated coverage and airtime to the SBVT campaign. Misrepresentations and misinformation failed to be addressed. For example, claims that SBVT members served with John Kerry on his boat in Vietnam were supported by the Hannity & Colmes broadcast, which referred to the group as Kerry's "crewmates." Only one of the members of SWVT was actually a crewmate of Kerry. Other served on boats that ran missions with Kerry's boat. (The SBVT ad and official statements by the group correctly claim only that the speakers "served with" Kerry, not that they were on the same boat.)
<snip>
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Swift_Boat_Veterans_for_Truth

If Swifty didn't jumped ship before August 2, then the ad was in production while he was still rallying with the Bushistas.

In any case, it's a perfect "revolving door" example, showing (once again) that Bushista accusations are often precisely designed to forestall criticism of their own bad behavior.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:17 PM
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23. Ridiculous
I hope Kerry find out about this and that the media picks this up too.
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:18 PM
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25. ive tried numerous times to right click and do 'save page as'
with no success... why doesnt that work? anyone have any luck with it?

-LK
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:21 PM
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29. See reply #20 in this thread
Edited on Sat Aug-21-04 01:22 PM by DUreader
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:22 PM
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32. those are screen caps, would be better to save the whole page if poss. nt
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:30 PM
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38. See reply #33 n/t
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:21 PM
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30. I got a couple of screen shots but can't save the whole page.
I don't know why.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:25 PM
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33. Just do this:
Under the "view" pull-down menu, so "View Source."

You'll get a notepad document. Do a "File > Save As" on this.

I saved it as "cordier.html."

In your browser, under the File pull-down, do "File > Open."

Navigate to where you saved "cordier.html," and it will open in your browser.

Works like a charm.

:toast:
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:29 PM
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35. its still not saving for some reason. nt
Edited on Sat Aug-21-04 01:29 PM by LastKnight
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:31 PM
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40. Send me a PM if you'd like and I'll try to help you
...so that we don't clog the message board.

:toast:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:21 PM
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31. spread this news to other message boards and blogs
Copy the link to Digby everywhere. He found the cache. He explains the news. He deserves the hits.

This is called EVIDENCE, kids.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:38 PM
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41. Only if YOU save a screenshot, Grovelbot!
Just kidding, I did about a half hour ago.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:40 PM
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43. Will this play out in the main stream media? This is where DU could
really be a force as Dem strat has said.

Bookmark this stuff and send it off!

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #43
44. Too bad he got (understandably) sick of the whining here. nt
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:46 PM
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46. Thank you all for this
now, where the FUCK is John Kerry? :kick:
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:45 PM
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45. ive got it saved as a html, think we can legally put it up on our own?
Edited on Sat Aug-21-04 01:46 PM by LastKnight
so we have our own copy, or is there some issue with that? or do we even need to put it up?

-LK
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #45
50. I doubt that very much. Look at the bottom of the page:
© 2004 Bush-Cheney ’04, Inc.

I wouldn't want Asscroft pulling up to MY front door in a white van.

:evilgrin:
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LastKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:55 PM
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51. figured as much, thought id check. nt
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:49 PM
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47. More sweet irony from Bush-Cheney 04 site: "No Real Evidence"
I captured this at the exact moment the annoying little Flash movie asked "Do you stand by our president?"

:evilgrin:



http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3329
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 02:03 PM
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54. Well, they wrote the textbook, so they oughta know... nt
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:52 PM
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49. He's still on this list
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/bush/bushorgvet.html

Not sure if it's as official as the other one, but there he is!
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #49
52. This is a page on the George Washington University Web Site
...it needs to be the Google cache of the "official" Bush-Cheney site that Digby found. That makes it "incriminating."

:toast:
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 02:02 PM
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53. Here's a screenshot (WARNING: BIG DOWNLOAD)
It's about 450K, so it'll take a bit of time to download. Also, since the page is so long, I had to take four screenshots and then stick them back together to make one big page.

?CLICK
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #53
55. nicely done Skinner, now just pass that along to Dem_Strat eom
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 02:38 PM
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58. I'm joining the party late--what media have we sent this to yet?
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 02:43 PM
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59. Does this mean anything?
Right click and select "view page info."

Modified: Saturday, August 21, 2004 3:38:17 PM

http://www.georgewbush.com/Veterans/SteeringCommittee.aspx
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 03:27 PM
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60. yup, that means they changed the page once they realized they
were getting sued
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 03:31 PM
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61. I can't wait until shrub and Rove are hauled away in shackles.
repuke bastards!:puke:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 04:17 PM
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62. Pass the Tabasco, please...
it's time for a :kick:!
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 04:37 PM
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63. SBV's vessel is breaking apart!!!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 11:34 PM
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64. what a great day this has been!
It was one of the most exciting days I've had on the Internet.

All these great stories dug up by NETIZENS and then mouthed by Keith Olbermann!

If we could do this regularly, the Repubs would be destroyed.
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