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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:44 PM
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Obama to visit Berlin for foreign policy speech



Obama to visit Berlin for foreign policy speech

By Leonard Doyle in Washington
Wednesday, 9 July 2008

Barack Obama is expected to make a major foreign policy speech at Berlin's Brandenburg Gate at the end of July in which he promises a sharp break with the gung-ho foreign policies of George Bush, if elected President in November.

The Democratic candidate is expected to begin a foreign tour next week with a brief visit to London, where he will meet Gordon Brown and David Cameron, it was reported last night. He is also due to visit France, Afghanistan, Iraq and Israel over the coming weeks.

Two American Presidents, John F Kennedy and Ronald Reagan – one Democrat the other Republican – both made famous cold-war era speeches in Berlin and Mr Obama's advisers hope some of the magic rubs off on him. A televised appearance before the famous Berlin landmark would help burnish Mr Obama's image as a World leader-in-waiting while wrapping him in the mantle of Presidents Reagan and Kennedy.

Mr Obama's campaign strategy involves reaching out to Republicans as well as Democrats and he has spoken fondly of the optimism that President Reagan instilled in Americans, even as he undermined the Democratic Party. Twenty years ago last month, President Reagan mounted a podium in front of an ugly concrete barrier separating the Brandenburg Gate from West Berlin and made his famous plea: "Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall."


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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:45 PM
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1. Jelly doughnut moment?
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NattPang Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:47 PM
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2. Historical moment.
How sweet it will be.
Finally, someone to
visualize as a real
President,
as opposed to the traitor
now in the White House,
and his twin running.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:47 AM
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15. Steady on
it will indeed be a time of great rejoicing when Bushco are gone.
But careful with the rhapsody and rapture.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:51 PM
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3. Maybe a healing, uniting moment? As for jelly donuts, that didn't seem
to bother the Germans either.
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:56 PM
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6. Ich bin ein Donut
My high school German teacher, who was a young woman living in Germany at the time, told us the German newspapers had drawings on the front page the next day, with Kennedy holding a donut on the lectern, and Jacky (highly stylized, of course) standing next to him.

Another friend explained why the Germans loved Kennedy so much, and Americans so much. It was because we cleaned their clocks so thoroughly, then rebuilt their country and redeveloped their economy, turning it into a post-War colossus. Nobody had ever done that in Europe before, ever.

The Germans loved our asses, until Bush-turd groped Angela Merkel. What a callow, sophomoric stunt.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:45 AM
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14. It certainly did not bother them at all
from what i have read. Mild amusement but great appreciation.

But the times have changed.

A healing, uniting moment? 2008 style? might be more possible once Bush is gone and the world can "heal" and "unite' with our vastly improved outlook.

Otherwise: Sounds a bit creepy.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:54 PM
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4. He should say
"Ich bin KEIN Berliner, sondern ein Bürger der Welt!"
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:59 PM
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7. Alle Menschen Werden Bruder
Wo dein sauftet flugel Seit. (Sorry, no umlaut on my American keyboard!)

It's all there, in Schiller's Ode to Joy, set up as the greatest beer hall tune ever written, in the 4th movement of Beethoven's Ninth.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:12 PM
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8. Hey, 48percenter! What does that mean, and
what do you think about Obama giving a speech at the wall? I love the idea.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6471134
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:13 PM
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9. It means
I am not a Berliner, I am a citizen of the world. :D

I'll be there. By hook or crook.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:16 PM
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10. BRAT! I'm so glad you'll be there! I'm a citizen... and wanna be there, too!
I look forward to your report! :patriot::thumbsup:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:31 PM
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11. well, I will try to take photos
let's see if Dems Abroad can get us close, and how many people show up?? :P
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:35 PM
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12. I'm smiling ear to ear; the vision is unimaginable to me. Yet NOT!
Just imagine! Wow. I hope you get a front row seat, my friend. :hug:
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 10:38 PM
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13. Well, that would be beyond my wildest dreams
I would just love to shake his hand!!

I've heard the organization has quite a bit of pull, guess I better pay some membership dues, quickly. LOL. :D
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 09:55 PM
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5. Damn, I so miss Krispy Kreme right now.
:( They closed all the stores in Phila metro region. Unbelievable!!
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