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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:30 AM
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I'm starting to think that McCain could be a democratic operative sabotaging his own campaign
I have never seen such a complete boob running for presidential office.
His campaign is a joke...
You can't even volunteer for his campaign in TEXAS!!! They send you to CO.
He says the stupidest things in public...
Isn't there anyone telling him what to do, or at least helping him.

I'm glad... but I'm starting to think that no one could be this stupid without doing it on purpose.


Or I could be wrong and he really is just that stupid...
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:31 AM
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1. Don't forget how they scheduled his acceptance speech vs. NFL Opening Night
Another brilliant maneuver.
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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:35 AM
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6. Its gotta be on purpose... Its laughable
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:34 AM
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2. He really IS that inept and clumsy and stiff and uncomfortable--
and the worst part is, his handlers can't mask it.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 02:31 PM
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19. Did you see him yesterday at the Latino conference?
My friends if you want higher taxes, I'm not your man--(painted on evil Jack Nicholson smile while pausing for raucous applause)...total silence from the crowd....:rofl:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:35 AM
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3. Shhh! Don't tell 'em.
I read he has 1 paid person on staff in CA.

It is starting to look like an Ohio State v Northwestern football game.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:35 AM
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4. That's what I said about George Bush in 2000.
Maybe he's just trying to appeal to his :dunce: base.

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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:04 PM
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9. who is his base?
is it republicans? Because I can tell you republicans are not happy anytime they hear he is talking to hispanics......
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:12 PM
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14. I know. It's hilarious. LOL! The Republicans have painted themselves
into a corner on that one. :)
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 02:15 PM
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18. haha.......
I know, they're so mad that they're stuck with McCain!!

I have a conservative friend who hates McCain! He used to tell me that we would be stuck with Hillary the same way they're stuck with McCain.

Personally, I think he was hoping we would be stuck with Hillary.....
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 02:33 PM
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20. George Bush in 2000 actually had much more personality..
before all the stress/drugs/booze/mental illness got to him. He actually was a fairly personable guy looking back, much more than McCain is.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:35 AM
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5. My 2nd theory: reThugs know the economic shit is going to hit the fan & don't want to be around it
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 11:35 AM by uponit7771
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:41 AM
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7. I just read this and it goes perfectly with your OP... from Josh Marshall~
Can You Help?
07.09.08 -- 12:31PM
By Josh Marshall


Today we're trying to put together a unified theory of John McCain's speech-making crappiness.

My initial theory was that if you look at the most outstanding instances of McCain's awkward, cringe-inducing delivery they're chiefly about domestic issues -- economy and culture war stuff -- that McCain doesn't really care about. When he's talking about the thing he's jazzed up about -- being right about the surge -- his delivery is much more straightforward. A lot of this stuff is also packaged as attacks on Obama, as Ben pointed out.

But then David pointed out that the thing that really comes through to him about McCain's delivery is a sense of entitlement. 'I'm a Senator and I'm John McCain so just get on with it and make me president."

Sort of like he's not disciplined enough to learn to deliver his prefab lines or convincingly pretend he believes or cares about them. I hadn't thought about it quite like this before. But this has the ring of truth to me. And perhaps the two meld together. McCain is big on Iraq and wants to talk about that. But the other stuff is mainly stuff he's changed positions on anyway and doesn't particularly care about. So he just goes through the motions.

Part of the reason may be that, despite a few of his claims to the contrary of late, I don't think McCain has had many contested races in his political career. I don't know exactly how his first election to the House went. But since he's been in, it's been pretty much smooth sailing. So a lot of this is just new to him.

This brings us back to the question of why McCain seems to suck so much this cycle whereas many people -- even political opponents -- thought he was solid as a candidate in 2000. And when I say 'solid', I mean a candidate whose public presentation was a big part of his attraction.

more...

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/203323.php
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:06 PM
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11. I called that way before Marshall did right here on DU. McCain can
speak well when he's speaking off the cuff about something he really believes in but can't deliver a talking point to save his own life.

Pardon my brag, but hey; Josh has an audience and I don't, so any way the word gets out!
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:08 PM
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13. entitlement?
that didn't work so well for Hillary.....

And personally, I think Hillary was a much better competitor than McCain is. If it didn't work for her, I doubt it will work for McCain...
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:02 PM
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8. yesterday there was an article in the NY Times......
...that said he spoke to an hispanic group in DC where he said he was committed to getting the illegal immigration bill passed that he tried last year. You know, the one where so many republicans are mad about? The one they usually refer to as amnesty....

Now why on earth would he do something so stupid which would keep republicans angry at him now?

It's almost like he doesn't want to be President! Yes, it would encourage hispanic votes (at least among the legal ones) but it angers many more republicans who won't be voting for him!!!
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wileedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:31 PM
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15. In fairness
Moving against amnesty now would be the Mother of All Flip-Flops. I mean his name was on the damn bill.

But if you pay attention he only talks about it with Hispanic groups, never in full public site or the national stage anymore.

His problem is now neither the Hispanics or the Republicans believe him anymore.

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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:51 PM
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16. that's true......
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 01:51 PM by tulsakatz
usually if he talks about this stuff, it's usually a closed meeting...

Still, I can't imagine that republicans would be happy to hear about it, whether or not it is the truth. It's just another reminder of why they hate him...
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:06 PM
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10. I was thinking that if I were a Republican I would really be in despair
He appears so tired and old. On occasions we would look at older candidates as the ones with maturity and experience, even a "father figure." And I think that many were counting on contrasting him with Obama's lack of national experience.

Perhaps he was interesting in 2000, did not notice either way. But now one can almost feel sorry for him. Who is dragging this old, tired man around the country? Let him retire and live quietly.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:21 PM
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21. You're very right, at least in my experience...
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 03:23 PM by DangerousRhythm
My father -- I actually feel bad for him -- is a solid Hannity watcher, etc., and went on a fifteen minute long rant to me on the phone last week about the Republican Party, McSame and Bush and all the usual suspects saying how he thinks they're TRYING to lose and that Bush is a fucking idiot and McSame isn't even trying to fight. He was LIVID and I thought I'd never see the day he'd call Bush such a thing. :rofl:

Seriously, I was shocked! When I put down the phone I had to make sure I'd hung up properly and just laaaughed, very loudly. :rofl:

P.S. - He's totally resigned himself to Obama being President and he's NOT happy about it. Poor dad. :rofl:
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:07 PM
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12. the way he's being propped up is offensively obvious
this media pass is getting ridiculous
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:56 PM
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17. John SIdney McCain III is coasting along because he's got corporate media support in the bag
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