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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 03:55 PM
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Another Swift boat eyewitness comes out for Kerry! (((A must read)))
found at TPM:

Dear Editor,

This letter is in response to the new attacks on John Kerry's war record by a group calling itself the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth." As for most veterans of any war and as people who know me will testify, it is not easy for me to talk about my experiences in Vietnam. However, because of these new ads and, I understand, a new book recently published by an old Charles Colson "Enemies List" hit man, I feel compelled to speak out. Unfortunately, the veterans featured in these attacks are being used by extreme right wing Bush supporters to spread their lies and malign John Kerry.

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Since I happened to be along on one of the "excursions" where the boats that we were on were attacked and after which Lt. Kerry was cited for valor, I thought it appropriate to give my recollection of that event. This happened on March 13, 1969. I was assigned as Psychological Operation Officer for the Swift Boat group out of An Thoi, Vietnam, from January 1969 to October 1969. As such, I was on No. 43 boat, skippered by Don Droz who was later that year killed by enemy fire. We were second in line while exiting the river and going through the opening in a fish trap when a mine blew up under the No. 3 boat directly in front of us and we started taking small arms fire from the beach. Almost immediately, another mine went off somewhere behind us. All boats, except the one hit, immediately wheeled toward the beach that most of the fire came from (a tactic devised by Lt. Kerry, I later learned) and commenced showering the beaches with so much lead, that it could probably be now mined there. The noise was of course, deafening.

Three things that are forever pictured in my mind since that day over 30 years ago are: (1) The No. 3, 50-foot long, Swift boat getting huge, huge air; John Kerry thought it was about two feet. (He was farther away from it than I). I think it was at least four feet and probably closer to six feet; (2) All the boats turning left and letting loose at the same time like a deadly, choreographed dance and; (3) A few minutes later, John Kerry bending over his boat picking up one of the rangers that we were ferrying from out of the water. All the time we were taking small arms fire from the beach; although because of our fusillade into the jungle, I don't think it was very accurate, thank God. Anyone who doesn't think that we were being fired upon must have been on a different river.

The picture I have in my mind of Kerry bending over from his boat picking some hapless guy out of the river while all hell was breaking loose around us, is a picture based on fact and it cannot be disputed or changed. It's a piece of history drawn in my mind that cannot be redrawn. Sorry, "Swift Boats Veterans for the Truth"- that is the truth.
http://www.telluridegateway.com/articles/2004/08/20/news/opinion/opinion01.txt
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 03:57 PM
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1. Great Letter - Sorry - That is The Truth
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 04:12 PM
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2. Nice find, thanks for posting!
I wish he would have written the letter to the NY Times though!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 04:30 PM
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6. You may help get it in the Times...
Sounds very authentic to me... The details were the best lay-out of what happened that day so far..

I just emailed it to the NYTimes
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dumpster_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 04:14 PM
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3. now that kerry swift boat supporters are coming out of woodwork, cable tv.
...cable tv talkshows will now drop the matter, and without ever giving the kerry supporting switft boat vets their fair time for rebuttals.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 04:23 PM
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4. Should we send this out to all the news channels, etc. since it
appears sometimes they don't seem to be able to find the news that people around here manage to find?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 04:28 PM
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5. Throwlup can't even seem to remember the weather.
How can one forget the sight of someone returning, under heavy fire, to retrieve one of his own? I would never have forgotten that.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 04:32 PM
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7. If they were there, why didn't they get the guy out of the water...
They said Kerry ran off...?????
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 05:19 PM
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11. Excellent point. nt
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sally343434 Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 04:38 PM
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8. Read the next letter
The letter after it was pretty funny.

"I did not appreciate the property damage to my vehicle or the harassment by the "locals" while dining with my family.

"I have displayed "Viva Bush" and "W'04" bumper stickers on my car for the last year and a half. (Yes, it is a new SUV).

"I was horrified to discover that our car had been vandalized overnight in the parking garage. Cheese (yes, cheese) had been jammed into the rearview mirrors and under the windshield wipers. The vandals also took a black permanent marker to the back of my vehicle and defaced the stickers (no big deal really, they will be replaced). The last thing noticed was the message "Fuck Bush & fuck you" with a black swastika written on the side of my vehicle in permanent black magic marker.

"... my family and I went out to breakfast at 9545 in the Mountain Village. My car defaced, I decided to wear my support of the President with one of his campaign T-shirts. Some sort of vindication I guess for what happened to my vehicle.

"our waiter began to harass me in regards to my wardrobe choice

"We finished our breakfast and left Telluride, early, in our gas-guzzling SUV.

"I've made additional donations to the George W. Bush, the GOP and Pete Coors, and will continue to do so to help ensure their success.

"Do you believe I was asking for my SUV to be defaced?


HAHA. At first I thought this was a joke letter with some kind of crazy punchline at the end. The arrogance of these turds is amazing, but that last question is hilarious!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 05:09 PM
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9. To Hell U Ride (Telluride) is a cool place....
It's a box canyon where Butch and Sundance hung out in their days. They have a great bluegrass festival there every year and there is a beautiful waterfall (largest in the state) as a backdrop with the golden aspens and blue spruce surrounded by the San Juans... :)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 05:16 PM
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10. Who is this guy?
It would be nice to have a name.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 05:19 PM
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12. Click the link and read the rest of the letter
His name is on there.
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sondee Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 05:22 PM
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13. Woohoo...Another comes forward that served with Kerry...



Letter in today's Evansville Courier from an Indiana vet who served
with John Kerry:

In Response:
Area resident served with Kerry, saw courageous, respectful officer
By ANTHONY E. SCHMITT Special to the Courier & Press

August 19, 2004

Shame on this newspaper for participating in the slanderous,
erroneous attack on Sen. John Kerry's military service by George W.
Bush and proponents, i.e., the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth Web
site, by way of the letter from Charlotte Koewler, published on Aug.
10. Republican Sen. John McCain condemned this smear, and has
requested that the Bush Re-election Committee withdraw support from
the swift boat veterans' group. The 2000 Bush team used the same
tactic against McCain during the presidential primaries, in an
attempt to make people believe that there was little difference
between McCain's highly decorated service record and sacrifice
during the Vietnam War and the incomplete, uncorroborated service
record of George W. Bush.

If the public is looking for Kerry's official military service
record - including details of his numerous decorations, which
include the Bronze Star, the Silver Star (the Navy's second-highest
medal) and three Purple Hearts for being wounded on three different
occasions - they can use the same Internet search engine as Koewler
used to find her regurgitated trash. The swift boat Vietnam veterans
who voluntarily place themselves publicly at Kerry's side are
testimony to their dedication, and to his devotion to duty and
service.

I have never written to the Courier & Press before. Letters to the
editor at times amuse me, sometimes anger me, but always, I put the
newspaper down knowing that opinions can be freely expressed here.
This time, I am compelled to write because I feel I have something
to contribute.

My feelings about presidential candidate John Kerry are drawn from
my experiences and observations while serving in the U.S. Navy with
him aboard the USS Gridley from June 1967 to June 1968.
In June 1967, I was 18 years old and returning from my first West
Pac deployment. That tour, along with the subsequent one with Kerry
aboard, was spent on search-and-rescue duty, providing support to
carriers and assistance to downed aviators and aircraft in distress.
Young and green as grass, Ensign Kerry joined the Gridley soon after
we arrived in the ship's home port of Long Beach, Calif., just as I
was departing for leave in Indiana. Returning to the ship 10 days
later, I observed that Kerry had already made a favorable impression
on my enlisted crewmates in the ship's office. In the year I served
with Kerry aboard the USS Gridley, both in port and under way, and
in hostile waters off the coast of Vietnam (for which we received
combat pay), I observed this officer, always with a favorable
impression. My recollections of Kerry are those of a serious yet
friendly individual who, unlike many officers, did not look down
upon a lowly enlisted man such as myself. Kerry was unassuming and
respectful of everyone. In my duties both as a yeoman in the ship's
office, and tracking surface and air targets in the Combat
Information Center, I had many occasions to observe interactions
between Kerry and others. He was honest and straightforward, a
genuine person, unabsorbed in himself. I found Kerry to be quite
charismatic, and he participated in activities with enlisted men,
while other officers seldom did. He assumed a quiet junior officer
role in the company of his senior officers, but appeared to garner
great respect when he did speak. Kerry did not wear his religion on
his sleeve, but as I recall, while under way, he was the only
officer aboard who participated in the poorly attended
nondenominational church services.

In my mind, John Kerry's military service is unquestionably
honorable and beyond reproach. Many Vietnam veterans, myself
included, have wrestled with our county's role in that war, the
value of our individual service and the cost to our nation both in
lives and treasure. My own impressions of that long-ago conflict
continue to evolve, but I knew while in the service that our
policies were not working. I chose to leave the United States and
live in Australia after completing my military service. John Kerry
came back home and enlisted in the fight to stop the war and the
dying. At that time, he knew his involvement with a peace group was
not the politically correct thing, but he did became involved
anyway. Just as he could have stayed with the relatively safe white-
water navy, John Kerry chose to volunteer to make a difference in
the dangerous brown-water navy of the swift boats.

My observations of the man lead me to believe it was Kerry's sense
of duty to his country and empathy for those he left behind in
Vietnam that propelled him to join the Vietnam Veterans Against the
War. I don't know if that was the right thing to do at the time, or
even now. However, I do know that I have a sense of guilt for doing
nothing after my discharge from the military, while American
soldiers continued to die in a war that I knew was going nowhere. It
lasted another excruciatingly painful six years.

In my mind, John Kerry had another kind of courage after his
military discharge. He received no medals, only scorn, for
attempting to do something about a war he knew to be wrong. Those
who fought in that war have the right to judge him for that. After
the war, I know I did nothing to stop it, and for that I am not
proud.

These are difficult times that require a leader with unique courage
and the ability to bring the country, and the world, together for
our very survival. At this time in our nation's history, I believe
John Kerry possesses the very character, courage, and skills to do
just that.


:toast:
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