Dole's WW2 wounds came from reckless conduct.

[MikeG]

From today's Boston Globe editorial page:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2004/08/22/big_lies_for_bush?mode=PF

Dole was given a Purple Heart for a leg scratch probably caused, according to one biographer, when a hand grenade thrown by one of his own men bounced off a tree. And while the serious injuries Dole sustained later surely came from German fire, did the episode demonstrate heroism on Dole's part or a reckless move that ended up killing his radioman and endangering the sergeant who dragged Dole off the field?

[PROGRESSIVE1]

1. And Dole has the nerve to attack Kerry?

:wtf:

Robert Dole served his Country DISHONORABLY!!!

Dole is no war hero!

[LoisMustDie]

2. Bad Karma eom

[Cooley Hurd]

3. We can thank the SBVT's for this new wave of...

...second-guessing our wounded veterans. However, after what Dole said today on Blitzer's show (about Kerry's wounds being "superficial"), I have to say that Bob made his war record fair game for review/revision...

Shit... while we're at it, we should just tear down the Vietnam Veterans memorial, since all the men and women listed on it were only killed so they could go home (albeit, in a bag)... :eyes:

</sarcasm>

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

4. The Big Lie

Two paragraphs from the article:

Yet the Kerry opponents, working with funders and political operatives closely linked to Bush personally, are attempting what is known in politics as the big lie -- an effort simply to contradict the truth repeatedly.

Both parties do it, but Republicans are developing a shocking expertise. The smearing of John McCain in South Carolina in 2000, the reprehensible attack to oust Senator Max Cleland of Georgia in 2002, and this utterly cynical campaign against Kerry by Bush's False Squad deserve only condemnation.


For those of you who don't know history, use of the Big Lie was a tactic used by Adolf Hitler.

[starroute]

5. Self-inflicted by his own confession

Dole's War Record
As published in The Nation (Aug12/19, 1996).
http://www.tedellis.net/dole-article.htm

Most journalistic accounts of Dole's wartime experience pass along, without questioning, the versions from several biographies, some based on interviews with him; some from interviews with the same soldiers who were interviewed for those books; some from the autobiography Dole wrote with his wife, Elizabeth, The Doles: Unlimited Partners, an updated version of which was published in time for the campaign; and some from G.O.P. campaign literature. Although these sources sometimes contradict one another, the following composite picture of Dole's combat exploits emerges:

<snip>

* Slightly wounded on a night patrol by a grenade, he returned to lead his platoon on a second patrol only two days later.

<snip>

Yet all of the above is either untrue or exaggerated. Dole's first wound, in the night patrol, was self-inflicted (a story the candidate once told himself), but that fact does not appear in an extremely laudatory profile the G.O.P. distributes with a cover letter by Dole.

<snip>

# He ruefully confesses in his 1988 autobiography that his wound was self-inflicted: "As we approached the enemy, there was a brief exchange of gunfire. I took a grenade in hand, pulled the pin, and tossed it in the direction of the farmhouse. It wasn't a very good pitch (remember, I was used to catching passes, not throwing them). In the darkness, the grenade must have struck a tree and bounced off. It exploded nearby, sending a sliver of metal into my leg -- the sort of injury the Army patched up with Mercurochrome and a Purple Heart." The wound was so minor that he led another patrol two nights later. He does not mention that others were also injured by his misguided throw -- which Woodruff's account attributes to an enemy machine gun.

[louis-t]

6. Dole also claimed (falsely) today that

Kerry got two puple hearts in one day!

[Keirsey]

11. starroute

Thanks for you research! You and others give me so much ammo!!

[Lefty48197]

7. a real man would have thrown himself on top of that grenade to save his

buddies.

[genius]

8. Dole should be stripped of his medals and retro-actively given a

dishonorable discharge.

[Jacobin]

9. I was there. Bob Dole wasn't a hero. He was running away from

enemy fire when he was hit, leaving his men in a trap to all be killed.

He insisted that he be sent out on the first ambulance even though others were more severely wounded.

He did not deserve his metals. He had others lie about what happened so he could get them and then went into politics using metals that he got for being a coward. Now he supports a deserter from the TANG as president over a candidate who actually went to war. Bob Dole is a coward.

I know Bob Dole. Bob Dole cannot be trusted. Bob Dole is not fit to be an american much less a U.S. Senator.

[DeepModem Mom]

10. LINK TO DOLE'S WEBSITE CONTACT PAGE --

http://www.bobdole.org/contact.html

[BOHICA06]

12. Yeah, but sucking up three 8mm rounds

through the chest makes a man forget the little scratches. Now going toward a machine gun nest does raise questions of judgment.