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mrsadm Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:36 AM
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DON'T THEY GET IT?
Do you think the Kerry campaign has learned anything from the recent past? Like what Bush did to smear the military records of McCain and Max Cleland? Weren't they prepared for this?
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:38 AM
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1. Who says they're not prepared for it?
Things don't have to happen on the timetable that best satisfies US. Kerry knows the importance of timing. There's no reason to conclude that he wasn't prepared for any of this.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:41 AM
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2. I would love
to see O'Neill and Kerry in a debate again like the Cavett show of 71...I wonder if O'Neill would accept a challenge if Kerry offered it...?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:42 AM
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3. Kerry could be timing it
Rove seems to have planned the attacks to culminate during the August lull, but forgot that the Republican Coronation would be made vulnerable by it.

If Kerry rolls with the earlier punches, and kicks some serious ass this coming week-10 days, Bush will limp to his Imperial Coronation with significant damage and a heady aroma.

--bkl
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:52 AM
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4. Suppose you see a fire across the street and you are in the
front yard yelling to the nighbors.. FIRE FIRE.. But.. the people right next to you have gigantic amplifiers, and a huge sound system..They are playing LOUD LOUD music...

Across the neighborhood, everyone hears the music.. they do not hear you..

Republicans CONTROL THE MEDIA....THEY OWN the MESSAGE..

No matter how much our side has the information and is pissed about it, our people are totally at the mercy of the "shows" that "invite" them for challenging 15 second DEBATES..

The candidates and their campaings and the parties do NOT control the distribution of their message.. They must PAY for time on tv, UNLESS there is "negative news" about them.. The media runs with that, and the may be called to refute it..."10 seconds..outta time.."

* can get free airtime anytime he wants it..

It's a dirty dirty business.:(
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 05:54 AM
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5. yes they know which is why they do campaigning other than through media
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 06:19 AM
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6. Recent past? how about the last 30 years. The repubs attack
and the Democrats look like deers in the headlights. Remember Watergate. Same thing, different day. The repubs just attack. They did it for 8 years of Clinton. They spend all their time attacking Democrats and covering up crimes of repubs
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 06:28 AM
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7. We "allowed" it to happen, and they are pros..
Bastards... but they saw an opportunity, and the grabbed the media..

The first thing that happens after a coup?? Take over the papers, radio and TV.. Dictators KNOW how important the "proper message" is..

Repubs have been involved in coups for decades.. they know how it works ...
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