Enough with the "McCain is a honorable man" crap, Obama

[BlueStater]

Honorable men don't kiss up to weasels who slandered their families.

Honorable men don't stab their friend, senate colleague, and fellow veteran in the back for the sake of political gain. (http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2620520&page=1)

Honorable men aren't tortured for six years and then vote for others to suffer the same fate (all the while falsely portraying themselves as being against it).

Honorable men don't call hateful bigots "agents of intolerance" and then later kiss up to those same bigots for political gain.

Honorable men don't run sleazy, negative campaigns full of lies about their opponent and never explaining why they, the candidate, should actually be elected.

John McCain is NOT an honorable man. Far from it.

[AtomicKitten]

1. I think the campaign responded just as effectively without being a douchebag about it.

Obama's statement: "Senator McCain is an honorable man who is running an increasingly dishonorable campaign."

[last1standing]

2. Honorable men don't call their wives "cunt" or treat rape as a joke.

They don't insult children and they don't laugh about slaughtering millions of innocent civilians (bomb, bomb, bomb...).

K&R!

[Hawaii Hiker]

11. And honorable men don't make jokes about a teenager (as Chelsea Clinton was at the time)

of this despicable joke...

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

John McBush is a first rate classless pig..

[BlooInBloo]

3. Heh - if only he could get away with it. That's what surrogates (inc. us) are for.

[kurtboss]

4. Obama Needs to Stay Above the Fray

Obama isn't likely to lose...no matter what. But, as I've been harping in all the threads, we do need people/organizations to respond quickly and with force when McCain throws shit. Lex Talionis. Law of retaliation. Give the media a new story. Better than the crap McCain lies up. The business about him turning traitor while a POW seemed to get media attention in 2000 and work for Bush in S. Carolina. Obama would rightfully denounce such an attack, but we wouldn't be talking about military bases or Obama's loyalty anymore. To insure Obama's victory requires media manipulation strategy to counter the GOP. I wouldn't be so balls to the wall about it if I didn't think we need to get moving. I thought after all the "we won't get swiftboated talk" the dem strategists have been yapping about that there was some sort of operation in place. Apparently there isn't. We should have heard from them by now. Since we haven't I suggest there isn't one and we're leaving Obama stuck like Kerry in 04...ignore the smears or engage them--loses regardless. Change the story by creating a new one. And seriously, I'm hardly the first one suggesting this stuff, I just don't see a response. If there is an organization out there ready to counter punch I want to donate, so point me in their direction.

[MonkeyFunk]

5. Thank goodness DUers don't run his campaign

[BlueStater]

6. Can you name anything I said that wasn't true?

McCain is a sleazeball who will say and do anything to get elected.

[kurtboss]

8. True Dat

Seriously. This stuff about the troops is a complete lie and basically calling Obama a traitor. No reason to sit back and take it...but again, Obama's campaign ought not to be the ones with the attacks, the viral email, the tabloid crap. Media manipulation needs to play to the lowest common denominator and it can't have any association with the candidate. I have no connection to the Obama campaign, for example. And I can make shit up if McCain wants to go this route. Fine. Let's get down to it.

[cliffordu]

9. Doesn't mean Obama has to be, and futher, it seems to be doing McCain absolutely

no good to be like that. In fact it seems that what Obama is doing is working like a charm.

I'm actually enjoying watching the train wreck that is John McCain's campaign slow-mo disintegration...

[speedoo]

10. He is a sleazeball, far from honorable, but I'm glad you're not running Obama's campaign.

It's working pretty well. If it ain't broke.....

[MonkeyFunk]

13. What's wrong is that Obama should

call him a sleazeball. That's just political ignorance.

[Bear down under]

18. "If thine enemy hunger. ....

.... feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head."
Romans 12:20, quoting Proverbs 25: 21,22 (KJV)

I find Senator Obama's careful, old-fashioned courtesy towards his opponent most attractive. It shows that he is an honourable man, even if his opponent is not -- and I have no doubt it *is* heaping coals of fire upon Senator McCain's head.

[NYC_SKP]

19. I'm with you, MonkeyFunk

That John McCain is or has done all these things does not mean Obama should call him on them.

It just wouldn't be dignified, and we all know it's not successful to lower oneself to the level of one's opponent.

Let others do that.

:hi:

[cliffordu]

7. MonkeyFunk, I totally agree.

[TwilightGardener]

12. The good thing is, McCain is sullying himself more than he's hurting Obama--

he's attacking his own strengths through his constant negativity and hostility--his reputation for "honor", and the impression that he's a good guy (for a Republican), which is what attracted so many to him in 2000. When members of his own party recoil at his tactics and suggest he's not acting like himself, there's a real problem. Let him blow the "honorable maverick" currency he once had--the sooner the better. Obama looks better by the day, because he's a positive figure instead of a grousing, carping old shitbag.

[cliffordu]

14. yep.

[TheKentuckian]

15. Time is on Obama's side right now.

McCain is putting himself into the position of ankle biting the campaign away.

He got some traction, initially but now it's turning back on him. Increasingly McCain looks petty and small, which is strictly unpresidential. Plus, he's losing the wheel. He's made this so much about Obama that he's lost almost all hand. By McCain's (and the corporate media'a) own hand(s) they have given Obama the ability to establish terms.

[cliffordu]

17. Yep - the more a referendum this is on Obama,

The more Presidential Obama looks, the more chihuahua-like McCain looks -

no offense to chihuahuas anywhere....

[dkf]

16. Well maybe thats the effect it will have on others who hear him say it.

I say he should keep with it.