Schuster: Repug Pollsters find No Gore Voters Switching to *

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5445086/

This morning, I was comparing campaign anecdotes with my friend Joe Trippi. And while I'll never acknowledge, post-Butter cow, that Joe has given me anything useful... Joe's experiences are similar to mine: Neither of us, in all of our travels in recent weeks, have found any Al Gore voters from 2000 who say they are planning to vote for George W. Bush this time around. On the other hand, it has not been that difficult to find Bush voters from 2000 who will be voting this time for John Kerry.

I've checked with several respected Republican pollsters... and they tell me, privately, they are finding the same thing. It's one of the reasons that in the battleground states in particular, there is an incredibly intense focus on the GOP side at registering new voters or getting Republicans and evangelicals who stayed home 4 years ago to promise they won't stay home this time.

Bush political advisor Karl Rove thinks a few million Evangelicals stayed home in 2000 because of the old Bush drunk driving arrest that came out the weekend before the election. If Rove is wrong, and a large number of Evangelicals did not stay home... the Bush campaign this fall is facing some serious trouble.

And I think Rove is delusional about the Evangelicals. And even if he gets them I think he's got quite a number of old-school Repubs who may be sitting out this one or holding their nose as they vote Kerry. As the Weekly Standard admitted - they aren't thrilled with Chimpy. You know that Weekly Standard article makes more sense. I thought the SBVL ads were about veteran and undecided voters - they may have been as much about telling the non-koolaid drinking Repubs that voting for AWOL was better than voting for a war hero.

[Nite Owl]

1. Then let's talk about that

old DUI again and remind them why they stayed home. The old school Repukes are most likely not to vote because of the deficit and the war so why are we letting * frome the debate and keep talking about what they want.

[catbert836]

8. Yeah

Let's also talk about W's cocaine record. That should get the evangelicals to stay home also.

[KurtNYC]

11. Better ammo is Bush's Skull and Bones tap

Not that I buy any of this stuff mind you. It is wacko (and cuts against Kerry too but only among the rapture crowd). But check out tidbits like this:

During the 1988 Presidential Campaign, a TV reporter asked Vice-President Bush if he were a Christian. Bush initially stammered, but then said, "if you mean born again, then, yes, I am a Christian". Vice-President Bush answered this question in a very expert manner, simultaneously being true to his own occult foundation while misleading innocent, trusting Christians.

Couldn't even read most of it but for ammo, it is at:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1314.cfm

[Bill McBlueState]

2. over a drunk driving arrest

Rove thinks a few million Evangelicals stayed home in 2000 because of the old Bush drunk driving arrest that came out the weekend before the election

If Rove is counting on people who stayed home over something as trivial as that to help * win this year, he's in serious trouble.

That ship's going down, and its crew is only now starting to notice.

[MallRat]

3. Now it makes sense (re: their appeal to the right, not the center).

Interesting. I thought Bush's hard tack to the right was alienating the undecided moderates... turns out, it's the other way around.

Bush had already alienated the undecided moderates. So now he's desperately trying to compensate for the lost votes by embracing the religious right agenda in an unusual campaign-year move.

-MR

[The Magistrate]

10. Yet The Reptile's Problem, Sir, Remains

When caught in a good trap, struggle only makes the situation worse, and that is the case today in this campaign.

It is impossible today to rally either base without simultaneously rallying the opponent's base. Communication is too widespread and easy, and so nothing can be done out of the other's sight. Thus attempts to rally the Republican hard core will serve equally to rally committed Democrats, by filling them with anger and confirming them in their outrage at the despicable acts and character of the reptile squatting in the Oval Office.

That the enemy feels a need to rally and cement its base today is an indication of hopeless desperation. If it is really a base, it ought to be in line and something that can be depended on come rain or shine. Polling data indicates people have been paying attention to this election, and are committed already to the vote they mean to cast, at rates not normally seen before mid-October. There is very little left to be done, and damned few new votes to find....

"There will be a holiday in our street soon!"

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[jacksonian]

12. exactly what i think

Bush can't go any more right, but to go moderate in his convention is going to negate this whole plan. Remember his State of Union address? Social programs are going to turn off his base and RW shit is not going to turn Gore states.

The idea of untapped armies of fundie voters spread around the country in sufficient numbers to win an electoral college without attracting the center at all is, to be kind, delusional.

[The Magistrate]

13. Indeed, Sir

The hard fact is, there are more of us than their are of them....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Doctor_J]

4. file this under

well, duh.

Someone recently said that 8% of Gore voters would be voting for * this time around. No Cheneying way.

[faithnotgreed]

5. wonderful! the one thing that stuck out to me (aside from the

obviously fantastic news that even republican pollsters are agreeing...)

is that shuster says that gore/kerry) voters, in pa for example, may not be as motivated or well organized as they were in 2000

uh huh....

they will be MORE motivated and well organized! as will the entire country
thank you russell simmons, thank you howard dean, thank you moveon, thank you ACT and everyone else working so hard

vote or die

[RoundRockD]

6. I think you're right. I went to a Kerry Meet-up and there was a lady who

describes herself as a Christian who voted for Bush in 2000 because he is a Christian. She is now supporting Kerry.

[markses]

7. Rove thinks "millions" of evangelicals sat it out last time?

He's completely fucking insane.

[PA Democrat]

9. I doubt that the Republican convention speaker line-up

will do much to woo those Evangelicals. Pataky, Arnold, and Giulliani won't have much appeal for the Christian right.

[LuminousX]

14. Voter suppression is there only hope

keeping Deomocrats home on election day.

Republicans only win when people don't vote. That is why GOTV on our side is critical. I am encouraging everyone to take the day off.

[cthrumatrix]

15. or e-voting machines ...bev harris has shared so much

these crooks will do anything

[Guaranteed]

16. That means we win.

:)