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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:27 PM
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Obama needs to Make Nice
Spare me the true believers.

I don’t mean the people who support Barack Obama for president. I support Barack Obama for president. I mean the people who worship him to the point that anyone who says anything raising questions about the inevitability of his rise to sainthood, much less the perfection of him and his wife and his campaign, is deserving of damnation.

I wrote a column last week about how the Obama campaign needed to guard against the arrogance that many people tell me they have detected in dealing with them. I didn’t condemn the candidate. I didn’t say he doesn’t deserve to be president. I just made the point, which seems almost obvious to me, that he isn’t president yet, that even with the great speeches and adoring crowds he found abroad, the race remains very close, at least; that there is resistance in many quarters to his candidacy and while some of it may be race-based, some of it reflects legitimate questions about experience, and policy; and that whatever its basis, in the end it doesn’t matter if more people vote for McCain than for him.

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“Heinous,” one woman wrote to me, in describing my thoughts, and me. Heinous? Oh, of course, and racist and stupid. Thanks. Such comments came not from conservatives who oppose Barack Obama but from true-believers who are ready to condemn anyone who has not joined the revival.

Hold on a minute.

I’ve been out there fighting to elect Democrats
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,395141,00.html
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:30 PM
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1. Her fighting to elect dems
is weak at best, she might want to try something she is better at.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:30 PM
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2. Such Bullshit. Arrogance my ass.
And I'm not a worshiper.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:30 PM
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3. Yet she works at Fox
Heinous is too kind.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:31 PM
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4. Susan Estrich?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:32 PM
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5. I'll be honest
I don't know much about her.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:38 PM
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11. Architect of the Dukakis campaign
which the high road types seem to want to emulate....
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:33 PM
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6. Why are you still here?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:35 PM
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9. To make you think.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:36 PM
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10. Not when you post this shit from Fox
and from this author.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:41 PM
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14. If our goal is to elect Obama
then we better learn to read "shit" from Fox. I like knowing what my enemy thinks.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:45 PM
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17. So that's why you're here
Ok.

You don't have to read shit from Fox. You can find out what the enemy thinks by listening to CNN, MSNBC, ABC, Washington Times etc.........
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:34 PM
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7. Now that's arrogance! .....n/t
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:34 PM
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8. Susan Estrich??!?! Is that the best you can do??!?
"Arrogant," my ass! This is about a black man who is challenging the power structure. It isn't about worship; it isn't about being blind to the facts. What this is about is people buying into the Repuke and M$M bullshit narrative that Obama is pompous and arrogant. It's bullshit, plain and simple. What they really mean is that this uppity-ass negro needs to go back on the plantation and remember his place. That's what this is about.

Thanks for you concern but it's bullshit!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:40 PM
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12. Fuck fox and fuck susan
fucking ugly estrich.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:41 PM
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13. Ms. Estrich has it wrong
"Thanks. Such comments came not from conservatives who oppose Barack Obama but from true-believers who are ready to condemn anyone who has not joined the revival."


Regular Dems condemn her (and the rest of the DLC TV Democrats paid by corporations to be on air "personalities") not because they believe in Obama as some sort of "Savior", but because she and her cohorts have become too cozy with the opposition that we believe are responsible for taking this country down the path towards ruination.

Obama is just our last chance to try to take our country back from the far rightwing lunatics, and we see Ms. Estrich and the rest of the DLC TV Dems acting like a speed bump to try and make this goal as difficult as possible.... which is near treason after the last 8 years of disasters her friends on the right are responsible for.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:43 PM
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15. Thank you for an intelligent response.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 01:43 PM
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16. You're most welcome
:hi:
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