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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:49 PM
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Dole's justification
Dole's suggestion that Kerry "never bled" runs counter to US Navy records showing that Kerry, who also won a Bronze Star and a Silver Star for bravery, still carries shrapnel in his left thigh from a February 1969 firefight.

"There's respect there," Dole said Monady. "We were in the Senate together. But we're talking about the presidential race, and I tweaked him a little on the Purple Hearts."

"I just wanted him to get off Bush's back and have his people get off Bush's back," Dole said.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1521&u=/afp/20040823/pl_afp/us_vote_kerry_veterans_040823225520&printer=1


Tweaked????? Respect????? Wanted us off Bush's Back? This is one of the most insane things I have ever read.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:52 PM
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1. The old coot has gone completely round the bend, hasn't he?
:shrug: What else could it be?
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:53 PM
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2. I get to lie about him in order to help Bush. That;'s why I said it. nt
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:57 PM
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3. Wow.
How incredibly lame!

I used to think he was funny, not a bad guy. Another person I have totally lost respect for this year...the list keeps growing.
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:00 PM
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6. Pretty soon, everybody with (R) behind their name...
will be on your sh*t list, won't they?
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:58 PM
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4. Everything you ever wanted to know about yet another
politician who has outlived his usefulness.

""I just wanted him to get off Bush's back and have his people get off Bush's back," Dole said.

After the election Dole needs to enter the same center as Nader, the old man's pain in the ass retirement center.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 08:58 PM
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5. There is NO justification for lying in order to hurt someone.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:03 PM
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7. I'd like to know how much blood is respectable for a medal in a time
of war? Maybe Dole can enlighten us and the soldiers in the Iraqi war how much they must bleed before they won't be questioned on if they deserved medals or not? There isn't respect from Dole, the two words do not belong in the same sentence. Dole has dishonored our country, our soldiers, our vets and our families with his caustic irresponsible speech and let it be clear...he has NOT apologized for his shameful embarrassing comments. Again, every soldier that returns with a medal will be subject to speculation under the Bush administration whether they were deserving of those medals or not! Wonder what Doles opinion is regarding the current Commander and Chief refusing to attend the funerals of our soldiers or denouncing these attacks on any American soldier, past or present! As Cheney would say, go Fuck yourself Dole! He's a disgrace, I hope no one speaks his name or ever has him on another show again, he should be exiled for his disgraceful words, they are a huge blight on our vets.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:16 PM
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17. This much blood
Here are some simple rules that need to be followed;

-Please ensure you bleed at least until you are almost dead. This should be easily achieved.

-If you do not bleed enough blood from your wounds, Republicans will mock your "superficial scratches", and take away any and all pride you may have in any medals the US military awards you when Republicans call your awards "suspicious" and "perhaps fraudulant".

The result combined may make you regret your risking life and limbs for your Republicans.

-You must understand that Republicans don't need to care about you unless you bleed copious amounts of blood from your wounds, but don't commit suicide in despair, as the Republicans consider that blood to be cheating and it will not count.

-If you lose limbs, be sure you lose at least all 4. Losing 3 or less limbs will make you an object of ridicule to the Republicans.

It's understandable that you wish for your Republicans to appreciate your services for your Republicans and the risks you are taking, but unless the above rules are followed, Republicans will either hate, mock, denigrate and ridicule you, or simply ignore you completely, which of course will be entirely your own fault.

WARNING:

Democrats will try to keep you safe by demanding Republicans send enough items such as body armor, up-armored humvees, ammo, working rifles, etc.

Do not accept any such items, or you will risk Republican wrath for being a sissy afraid to die for them, and for lowering their amounts of tax cuts by the need to pay for your sissy equipment.

Democrats will also try to bring you home out of danger, and before you are able to bleed out or lose your limbs. Again, do not accept such treasonous and immoral offerings or you will risk Republican wrath and hate yourself.

By following the above rules and assuming you don't actually bleed to death, (which is, however, totally acceptable), Republicans will be generous in reward to you.

While Republicans have slashed your veterans' benefits several times in several areas the past 3 years, they will ensure a tin cup and pencils, at a modest sum, for every properly gimped vet.

Thank you.
Your Republican Masters and Bob Dole



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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:37 PM
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27. This is great stuff...you should send this to your local newspaper!
This really needs to be sent around...you did a great job. I'm bookmarking this so I can send it to everyone I know. I do not want Bob Shameful Dole to get away with this, the repugs need to admit they went way too far and this sort of attack, attacks our current soldiers just the same. Blood is blood...


Good work Lynn! Really good stuff.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:40 PM
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28. Thanks!
We're stationed on the US military base at Ft Hood...I'm not too sure how good an idea it would be sending this to our local, lol!

I just hope the rethugs don't take it seriously and make it a part of the official Rules of Engagement! ;)

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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:52 PM
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30. Too late, you've heard Dole and the Shitboat Liars for Bush, they
all question medals earned at war. By the way...thanks for serving our country, I just hope you get a better commander in chief than the clown we have now. Next President should be by popular vote!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:03 PM
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8. Its time for him to start checking out nursing homes.
Just like some old codgers shouldn't drive, that fool needs to stay away from media interviews. :eyes:
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:04 PM
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9. He's only doing it because he doesn't like being a political anachronism
and he thinks he found a way to be relevant again.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:04 PM
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10. So, is "psychotic derangement" one of Viagra's side-effects??
Should someone notify the FDA??
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:04 PM
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11. He Just Wants Kerry to "Make Nice", I suppose
while Bush* brings on the hatchet men.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:06 PM
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12. What a spineless coward.
He should just admit he screwed up.
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:06 PM
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13. with the greatest respect - dole is a fucking idiot...nt
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:09 PM
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14. So how do soldiers returning from Iraq who got Purple Hearts
for scratches feel about this dis? sarcasm off
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:12 PM
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15. What is this, a scene from a hollywood movie?
Dole wants to compare scars like in the scene from Jaws.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:14 PM
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16. EXCUSE ME?!
Sorry for shouting. BUT WTF?!

"I tweaked him a little on the Purple Hearts" Is this supposed to be funny, Bob Dole? Because I don't see the humor in this at all.

"I just wanted him to get of Bush's back and have his people get off Bush's back"

WHAT?!!

Bush's minions are destroying a man's honorable service, casting aspersions on all those who served on his boat or with him during those incidents which won him medals.

I am 40 years old, I've NEVER read such a bizarre and idiotic retraction in all my life.

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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:19 PM
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18. Anyone see the similarities to Reagan
During his last year in office? I always suspected his AZ then, and Dole is sounding so similar
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CarolynEC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:19 PM
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19. Will we see the headline that says...
"Dole Backtracks on Kerry Purple Heart Comment" ???
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:20 PM
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20. I wish on Bob Dole an "erection lasting more than four hours ...
... while rare, requiring hospitalization" -- as the E.D. commercials say.

Like this old coot, who proudly leered at Britney Spears in a Pepsi commercial, has the right to question the official record of John Kerry's service.

Shut up, you old poop!
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:25 PM
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21. ....showed his true colors.....just another repuke slime merchant!
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:26 PM
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22. Perfect
Shows how pukes lie so easily, like it should be expected.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:27 PM
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23. Does anybody think this will hurt * ?
It illustrates the political nature of this whole thing. Say stupid, easily proven untruths, then when called just say it is just politics.

After I took a few breaths in to a paper bag and calmed down, I wondered what the effect of these crazy comments will be.

Jon Stewart should have a field day with this.

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CarolynEC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:30 PM
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25. I'm really hoping that veterans are getting pissed off...
... they've basically been told that Purple Hearts are worthless, and any other medals they may have won are suspect until proven otherwise.

:grr:
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:29 PM
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24. He's always been a hatchet man
But at least he used to stand by his remarks. Now he's just pathetic.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:31 PM
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26. Try to determine which is more appalling,
friends. Was it yesterday, when Bob Dole went on CNN and said that Sen. Kerry had never bled in Vietnam! He told a phony story about Sen. Kerry getting two Purple Hearts in one day! He even said all the wounds were superficial, even though Sen. Kerry still has shrapnel in his leg!

But those were only fabrications, friends. Today he tried to tell us why he said those terrible things. Let's read his comments and see whether we have to re-evaluate the mythological status Bob once had in some segments as a "man of honor":

"This is presidential race. We're 70 some days away. It's political hardball, and certainly Senator Kerry understands that," Dole told CNN.

Dole said Kerry called him to express "disappointment" over his comments Sunday that the Massachusetts senator had won "three Purple Hearts and never bled that I know of. I mean, they're all superficial wounds."
<...>
"There's respect there," Dole said Monady. "We were in the Senate together. But we're talking about the presidential race, and I tweaked him a little on the Purple Hearts."

"I just wanted him to get off Bush's back and have his people get off Bush's back," Dole said.

That's right, friends. Bob thinks it's OK to "tweak" someone about his military honors because it's presidential election time! Damn the military records, Bob wants to say, because this is an election season and Bob wants to play hardball with history! Yessiree, Bob! That sounds like that honorable man we've come to know and love--the one who called General Clark a corporal on CNN! The one who respects our veterans when it gets him veneration.

So here's our lesson for those fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan today: don't get on Bob's bad side during the national elections. He might want to "tweak" you, too!
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CarolynEC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:43 PM
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29. What a limp little prick he is...
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 09:51 PM by CarolynEC
... he doesn't even have the externally-located gonads to take back his words, instead tries to explain it all away. What a complete disgrace -- he should be hounded out of the Senate in shame.

Kudos to JK for calling him on it.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:54 PM
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31. Bob should take his own advice
and put a muzzle on himself.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 09:55 PM
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32. Gulp a couple of Viagara and Go Boff that Withered Witch Wife of Yours!
Total Feckin' Asswipe!
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