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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 10:52 PM
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Military coverup of *'s AWOL: Please bring me up to date
I've been very puzzled about the details of Dubya's AWOL for YEARS. But I've just stumbled on an excellent web article, dated September 2000, that appears to clear up the mystery in just a few paragraphs.

For those of you who have a better understanding of this issue:

(1) Do you agree with this interpretation? If not, please explain and provide links if possible.
(2) Does this explanation leave out relevant details? Please fill them in, providing links if possible.

I'd be grateful for any full or partial answer to any of these questions. And I suspect I would not be alone in my gratitude.

From http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/3671 , a text with hyperlinks to Dubya's military records at http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/document.htm

"...incredibly, for a period of one year beginning May 1, 1972, there is just one day, November 29th, on which Bush claims to have performed duty for the Air National Guard. There are no dates of service for 1973 mentioned in Bush's "Chronological Service Listing." Bush's long absence from the records comes to an end one week after he failed to comply with an order to attend "Annual Active Duty Training" starting at the end of May 1973. He then began serving irregularly with his unit. Nothing indicates in the records that he ever made up the time he missed. Early in September 1973, Bush submitted a request seeking to be discharged from the Texas Air National Guard and to be transferred to the Air Reserve Personnel Center. This transfer to the inactive reserves would effectively end any requirements to attend monthly drills. The request -- despite Bush's record -- was approved. That fall Bush enrolled in Harvard Business School. Both Bush and his aides have made numerous statements to the effect that Bush fulfilled all of his guard obligations. They point to Bush's honorable discharge as proof of this. But the records indicate that George W Bush missed a year of service....

Bush's unsatisfactory attendance could have resulted in being ordered to active duty for a period up to two years -- including a tour in Vietnam. Lieutenant Bush would have been aware of this as he had signed a statement which listed the penalties for poor attendance and unsatisfactory participation. Bush could also have faced a general court martial. But this was unlikely as it would have also meant dragging in the two officers who had signed off on his annual evaluation. Going after officers in this way would have been outside the norm. Most often an officer would be subject to career damaging letters of reprimand and poor Officers Effectiveness Ratings. These types of punishment would often result in the resignation of the officer. In Bush's case, as someone who still had a commitment for time not served, he could have been brought back and made to do drills. But this would have been a further embarrassment to the service as it would have made it semi-public that a Lieutenant Colonel and squadron commander had let one of his subordinates go missing for a year. For the Guard, for the ranking officers involved and for Lieutenant Bush the easiest and quietest thing to do was adding time onto his commitment and placing that time in the inactive reserves....

When Bush enlisted his commitment ran until May 26, 1974. This was the separation date shown on all documents as late as October 1973, when Bush was transferred to the inactive reserves at Denver, Colorado. But the date of final separation shown on the official summary from Denver, is November 21, 1974. The ARPC had tacked an extra six months on to Bush's commitment. Bush may have finally "made-up" his missed days. But he did so not by attending drills -- in fact he never attended drills again after he enrolled at Harvard. Instead, he had his name added to the roster of a paper unit in Denver, Colorado, a paper unit where he had no responsibility to show up and do a job."


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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 11:06 PM
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1. check this out
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 11:42 PM
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2. Thanks. I'd seen that site before, and looked it over carefully again
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 11:55 PM by AirAmFan
tonight. "Too much information" still comes to mind to sum it up, but it made a lot more sense this time, after seeing the tompaine and coldfeet pages linked above.

It seems to me that both the glcq and coldfeet sites have notable "holes" that could be filled in only by interviewing Dubya's superiors, but that the sites do not contradict each other. Do you agree?

Even with all the detail provided at glcq, there still are gaps in the explanation of exactly how Dubya got away with disappearing for a year. Has anybody ever interviewed "Rufus G. Martin", the officer who signed the "rating ... not available for administrative reasons" document? Is he stilll alive? How about the officers who should have signed off on the missing rating for the AWOL year, William D. Harris and Jerry D. Killian. Shouldn't the initial rating they submitted for Dubya (below) have been corrected after they became aware his transfer to Alabama had been rejected?


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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 12:47 AM
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3. *'s biggest lies about his AWOL were exposed online BEFORE
the 2000 election, but very little about them got into the mainstream press until AFTERWARD. At the beginning of August 2000, the alternative journalist whose FOIA-requested records for Dubya are online at coldfeet exposed several Bush statements directly contradicted by documents:

From http://www.onlinejournal.com/bush/080100_Heldt/080100_heldt.html :

"George W. Bushs records raise more questions than they answer

By Martin Heldt

August 1, 2000

"We know now that there were certified Air Force flight surgeons assigned to Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery at the time when Bush was living in Montgomery, Alabama, where Maxwell is located. This means that Bush lied to us when he claimed that he could not take the drug test in Alabama ...

Bush says that he quit flying because his group was phasing out the F-102 when he returned to Ellington after the political campaign in Alabama. But we know now that Bushs excuse for his abandoning flying the F-102 was false, that his group was still flying F-102s for a year after he left the service. We learned from his commander, Major General Bobby W. Hodges, that 'If had come back to Houston, I would have kept him flying the 102 until he got out. But I don't recall him coming back at all.'

And there are the haunting voices of the late Lieutenant Colonel William D. Harris Jr. and Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian, whose reports state that they could not fill out Bushs annual evaluation because, 'Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of report.' Bushs superior officers had believed that Bush was still in Alabama, but we now know that Bush had temporary orders to be in Alabama only for the months of September, October and November of 1972. And again, we have the word of retired General William Turnipseed who stepped forward to say 'Had he reported in, I would have had some recall, and I do not. I had been in Texas, done my flight training there. If we had had a first lieutenant from Texas, I would have remembered.'"
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:01 AM
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4. kick
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 10:06 AM
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5. Thanks for the kick
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