MEME MEMO: We condemn all 527s that promote LIES.

[ClassWarrior]

Honest, responsible 527s encourage debate and dialogue - the lifeblood of a free democracy. Lying, corrupt 527s poison free speech for all of us.

Work it into your daily conversations - and please keep this thread kicked.

The MEME MEMO: Because message matters.

[BlueEyedSon]

1. We condemn the complicit NEWS MEDIA who are too f*&king lazy

to do the minimal research in order to properly characterize lies as LIES.....

[ClassWarrior]

9. No we don't.

We want to spread memes like this so the news media passes them along like OUR good little puppies. You don't win a dog's trust by kicking him...

:evilgrin:

[bryant69]

2. Who decides?

What if a 527 says "We beleive that Evolution is a false theory and that Creationism is the only science that should be taught in our schools."

What if they say "We can cut taxes for the wealthy and have even more money in the treasury due to all the growth."

What if they say "We know that Iran is seconds away from developing Nucular weapons and we support any president who definately will invade Iran."

Who decides what a lie is and what a lie isn't?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[ClassWarrior]

8. Everyone decides for his or herself.

It's a MEME - a brain worm. A way of reframing the debate so people think rather than jerk their knees.

[HarveyBriggs]

3. Good Idea Class Warrior, Here's another take ...

We support the right to tell the truth. And the responsibilities that go with it.

Does George Bush?

Harvey Briggs

[ClassWarrior]

7. Awesome Harvey - that's exactly what I mean!!

[calimary]

20. Yes, indeed - GREAT point. Goes to the whole 87 billion dollar debacle

that they've tried to pin on Kerry (he DIDN'T vote for it! After saying he did!) - which I BET will rear its ugly head again around the debates. They'll have to go back to that if/when the Swift Boat Swifties run out of steam.

Michael Moore said something WELL worth repeating, about that. Kerry's crime was that HE BELIEVED HIS PRESIDENT. Aren't we supposed to be able to believe Our President?!?!?! It's the LIES, stupid. We support the right to tell the truth. And the responsibilities that go with it. Does george?

"W" stands for WHOPPER, after all...

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. We condemn all 527's who do not comply with election law

It's hard to prove a lie, it's much easier to find numerous examples of the SBV's blatant disregard for election law.

edit: to add proof

[ClassWarrior]

6. We don't have to PROVE anything.

I agree, if the Smearboat Vermin ads go down, it will be because of coordination.

But my post is about answering Bush*'s black-and-white dittohead arguement that he condemns all 527s. It's a way of demaning that the debate examine the content of the ads.

It's like 2000 when Bushco was saying we should count every military vote. Holy Joe Lieberman should have said on that Sunday morning talk show that we should count every LEGALLY-CAST military vote.

It instantly makes Bush* side with those who would break the law - or in this case, those who would lie.

[NewJeffCT]

5. No, we condemn all 527s that have direct ties to Bush insiders

I'm pretty sure nobody in MoveOn is a close personal friend of Mary Beth Cahill & long time donor to Cahill.

[ClassWarrior]

11. Too complicated to be a good meme.

It requires too much explaining. What I'm proposing is a quick hit - something to toss off into ordinary conversation to counter the black and white arguement that Bush* condemns "all 527s."

[Paradise]

10. kick! :) n/t

[ClassWarrior]

12. kick

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[kentuck]

13. It can be negative and still be true....

As it was with the "missed his physical" ad from MoveOn.org...

[ClassWarrior]

15. That's exactly right Kentuck.

We need to prod people into thinking in greys instead of black-and-white. I believe most people are pretty smart and will "get it" - they just don't have the time or context to think these things through. We need to help them.

[goodhue]

14. indeed

must be repeated

[calimary]

21. Kick!

Kick! Kick! Kick! Kick! Kick!

[calimary]

22. And kick, some MORE.

Kick! Kick! Kick! Kick! Kick!

[ClassWarrior]

23. Nice kick Mar...

Are you a soccer player, perhaps? Do you bend it like Beckham?...

[troublemaker]

28. Aslo, the Move On ads are NOT 527s (they are from MoveOnPAC)

[Cronus Protagonist]

29. Why not just condemn lying?

The 527's being included with the condemnation when they are not relevant is a Bush meme.

(the issue is lying, not 527's)

Swiftboat Veterans for Bush

JFK - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - FUCK BUSH
http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[ClassWarrior]

30. Agreed.

This meme was crafted as an answer to Bush*.