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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:45 PM
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Is PNAC the plan? If so they should admit it.
It is my understanding that the Bush administration is implementing PNAC’s plan for world dominance starting by taking over the Middle East. If this is their foreign policy, then they should tell the American and have a complete public discussion. The American people should know before the election just what this bunch has planned.

Why will no one call them out on this? This sure sounds like a story to me. Some how the media must look at this issue and ask the right questions. If they answer yes it looks over the top, if no it would make it difficult to start invading Iran without giving good reasons, hopefully. It can’t look good if this was the plan before the 2000 election.

KL
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:50 PM
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1. Part of Leo Strauss' philosophy is that we can't "handle the truth"
The commoners -- that means you and me -- aren't capable of grasping the 'higher concepts' involved in their plans, therefore it's acceptable, even obligatory, to lie to us about them.

At least that's what Strauss and his disciples believed (and still do).
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:52 PM
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2. That is why they needed a new "pearl harbor', lucky trifecta motherf***ers
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 04:55 PM
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3. I've been jumping up and down about this for months
Outside of DU, nobody seems to care, least of all the media. If you want to help get the word out, please see

PNAC 101 - Stealth Coup of the WH and Rise of the Neocons
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2234142#2237784

This was written with "Dropaganda" in mind.....heh-heh!
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:00 PM
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4. I agree with you 100%.
However, Shrub's handlers were smart enough to know that not even England would have joined our party if we'd given our actual reasons as justification.

I would even like to see PNAC debated by others, I mean, I don't care if it's Bush vs Kerry. I'd take Wolfowitz versus McGovern.
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Bongo Prophet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:10 PM
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5. Agreed
Those in the think tank world speak of Empire v Republic all the time....AMONGST THEMSELVES. Well, we get to see them on c-span.

If us commoners speak of it, here come the tinfoil accusations.

PNAC is like the 100 year business plan for the Octopus.
The logical outcome of many man(?) hours of dark think tankery.

A neo-feudal future. March of the Hegemon, slouching toward....something.

I recall once in late 90's, while multitasking c-span and pushing pixels, hearing the wistful comments of a thinktanker regarding new tech weaponry, to the effect of
"We could do all these cool things, if ONLY we had a new Pearl Harbor...sigh."

Indeed.
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TA Donating Member (349 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:12 PM
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6. I remember well the night I found and read about the PNAC plan
I was shocked beyond all belief. My wife and I talked and thought about it all night, we couldn't sleep. We said it couldn't be true, this is America. Things like that can't be possible. It had to be a Tom Clancy novel. It was a major shock and over the following weeks with more research we knew it was true and decided these sick bastards have gotten into power and MUST be removed. As with many of us here at DU I'm no longer shocked with anything these Neocons do or say. You have to believe 9/11 LIHOP is a very strong likely hood. Our country has been taken from us and I will do everything I can possibly do for the sake of my children and grandchildren.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-04 05:15 PM
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7. Gimme a break.
It's been out there for years in plain sight. "Who cares what YOU think?"
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