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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:06 AM
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Poll question: Why did Cheney make his gay marriage remark?
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:13 AM
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1. His re-election effort has lost some 2.5 million Gay voters.
I personally know 2 of them. Real Freeper types, hated Clinton. They both now will vote the obvious. The feel Bush Chaney have totally screwed them.

I figure that Rove's polling must prove this and that he may not have solicited as many Christian fundies as he hoped for.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:49 AM
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18. A gay Repub called AirAmerica
and Sam Seder hit him right between the eyes with, "HOW CAN YOU CONSIDERING VOTING FOR SOMEONE WHO REFUSES TO RECOGNIZE YOUR BASIC HUMANITY???" The caller concluded that he'd have to rethink his position.

:headbang:
rocknation
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:17 AM
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2. I sincerely hope to reason...
that nobody is going to fall for that "compassionate conservative" shit again. I swear, it's like an abuser telling his spouse "I'm sorry I hurt you, baby, just trust me- I won't do it again."
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:19 AM
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3. I think it's what he genuinely believes.
Edited on Wed Aug-25-04 01:22 AM by The Nation
I mean, diagree with the man on policy all you want, I think he truly does love both of his daughters and really believes what he said.

There's no danger in it, since the republicans would follow him off a cliff, so he has room to say what he wants to without any political repercussions.

Is it so hard to believe that he really does think that people should have the freedom to love whoever they want to, and it should be left up to the states?
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:28 AM
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4. " I sincerely believe blacks should be allowed to eat wherever...
as long as as it's not with whites." or "I sincerely believe that blacks are free to love whomever, as long as they don't marry whites". Yeah, maybe he does believe it, but in standing by and watching Bush try to push through discriminatory legislation, he tacitly endorses that discrimination. Furthermore, how does one truly love one's child while simultaneously working for an administration that is working actively to limit how she may express her love for another?

not trying to start a flame-war or anything, I just really hate this kind of GOP doublespeak, which is intended to obscure their true position on an issue.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:30 AM
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5. Kerry: "I believe life begins at conception."
But he is pro-choice (as I believe he should be)

doublespeak comes from all sides.
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:37 AM
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7. Touche...
and I'm too tired to explicate right now.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:40 AM
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8. Indeed.
:yawn:
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 07:14 AM
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12. Kerry doublespeaks - Not so!
Kerry can believe that life begins at conception and still be pro-choice. It seems to me that Kerry may put aside his own belief and put the feelings and desires of his constituents first. I wish more politicians did that!

Politicians are supposed to be the voice of the people remember, "by the people, for the people".

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smb Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 07:53 AM
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15. Which One?
Is it so hard to believe that he really does think that people should have the freedom to love whoever they want to, and it should be left up to the states?

While Dubya can have two mutually exclusive ideas rattle around in his head without ever colliding, I think Cheney is a bit too smart for that (but not smart enough to come up with an adequate doublethink synthesis).
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:30 AM
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17. You're giving him too much credit ...
...as a human being.

I think Dick's a cynical, calculating, withered old fart who doesn't know any true emotion aside from his perpetual Attack Dog mentality.

I almost feel sorry for him, to be that entirely devoid of a soul.
Almost, but not quite. :evilgrin:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 01:32 AM
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6. ummm...neither!
He's (and the Bush campaign are) trying to shift the focus back to gays again. Trying to avoid any backlash.

Back to the base!
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 03:22 AM
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9. feel the love
:grouphug: (snark)

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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 06:42 AM
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10. an attempt to make someone appear 2b 'compassionate conserv'
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 07:20 AM
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13. exactly
just in time for the convention, where compassion is going to be a theme.

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 06:56 AM
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11. Maybe he's gay.
I've heard things about him and Bob Dole. From friends, of course.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 07:45 AM
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14. To Change the Subject
The SW task force accomplished its goal - sowed doubts about Kerry - and the BFEE needs to change the subject before their involvement crashes in around their heads.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:28 AM
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16. Playing Both Sides - Shrub w/Fundies, CHEENEE w/Moderates n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:55 AM
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19. Some "patch."
It's okay with him that some states would recogize his daughter's marriage and some wouldn't while heterosexual marriages are recognized everywhere? That doesn't make a grain of sense, and he knows it!

:headbang:
rocknation
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