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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:08 AM
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~"A Kerry campaign official admits-1st purple heart-self inflicted"??
Edited on Wed Aug-25-04 08:49 AM by underpants
Sorry I couldn't fit this whole close quote into the headline.

I heard Major Garrett tell Brit Hume at the end of his fair and balanced report Monday night that "and a Kerry campaign official admits that his first Purple Heart medal could have been the result of an unintentional self-inflicted wound". No transcript of that broadcast is on Fox yet.

Huh? Did I miss that news story?

Then I heard Pawn Hannity say the same as an aside (but as if it is an accepted FACT) yesterday afternoon.

Is this in the "some people say......" "it has been reported...." or Novak and Hannity's "my liberal friends(some Dems I know) say....." type thing?




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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:09 AM
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1. They made it up.......
they always have, always will.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:11 AM
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2. Isn't this a Drudge thing?
Thought I saw that somewhere
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shaolinmonkey Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:11 AM
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3. "some people say"...I'm really tired of that line.
How to respond to that? It's tricky. Do you ask immediately if the speaker believes it(ala Chris Matthews) or do you respond flippantly ala, "some people say that aliens run the government and that the world is flat". Just saying things doesn't make it true and the wretched media never calls them on it.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:48 AM
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16. "WHO? who said that?!?!" "Where did you hear that?!!?!?!"
Edited on Wed Aug-25-04 08:48 AM by underpants
Fox? Oh criminy you ARE an idiot!

Something like that.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:12 AM
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4. I heard the President had an affair with Scott McClellan
There, you heard THAT somewhere, too.
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:12 AM
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5. It is a Drudge thing ...
... and it has been debunked. Someone had a good link to Kerry's service records ....

Also TWO of his boatmates have refuted this charge. Say Kerry was under fire ....
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:14 AM
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6. It seems the best to say "what a WILD conspiracy theory!" when someone
brings up such an idiotic notion in public.

We here know all this is lies... but american teevee watchers are, after all, american teevee watchers.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:15 AM
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7. He said "it's possible"
that was the first one where they weren't sure there was enemy fire.
It doesn't matter though. It's earned either way. This is such a non-story. It goes back to Dole bouncing a grenade off a tree. He earned his too.
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:15 AM
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8. Here it is ...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:44 AM
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12. Thanks-but they are trying to create another Gore-internet thing
:thumbsup:
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:20 AM
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9. Doesn't matter
If you Google "Purple Heart criteria" you will find it states,
"A self inflicted wound, in the heat of battle, not involving gross negligence" qualifies for the award.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:34 AM
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10. I'm so tired of the Swift Boats story
I know why they are pushing it; it's traditional Rovian politics, but it's still annoying as hell.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:53 AM
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19. "Traditional Rove tactics" is right:
Bush-Style Politics, Again
By Sam Parry
August 19, 2004

This year’s general election campaign is taking on the trademark stamp of every Bush national campaign since 1988: attack politics that tear down the Bush opponent while a compliant Washington press corps can’t believe the Bush family would play dirty.

In 1988, Massachusetts Gov. Michael Dukakis faced Republican attacks suggesting he had undergone psychiatric care, favored dangerous criminals and lacked patriotism. In 1992, the Republicans went on a search for a “silver bullet” against Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton, which included searching his passport file and leaking false rumors that he had tried to renounce his U.S. citizenship.

In 2000, Sen. John McCain confronted whispers about his sanity after five years in a North Vietnamese prisoner-of-war camp and mysterious phone calls about his “black” baby (a child he had adopted from Bangladesh). Vice President Al Gore saw his words so twisted that they were used to justify Republican claims that he was “delusional” and thus unfit to serve as President.

Now, it’s Sen. John Kerry’s turn. On one level, the Bush campaign presents Kerry as confused and inconsistent about his ability to make decisions on war and other issues. In a parallel operation, a conservative group of Vietnam veterans accuses Kerry of lying about his war record as the Bush campaign neither condemns nor discourages the smears.

----more---
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/081904.html
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:41 AM
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11. "Self Inflicted Wound" - They are counting on this being misinterpreted!!!
"Self Inflicted Wound" is a military classification term...not a term of judgement or criticism.

SBV want you to think this means Kerry shot himself in the foot on purpose to get a medal.

No.

I think they are refering to a grenade that Kerry fired too close to shore. Rocks and shrapnel flew back an hit Kerry.

"Self Inflicted Wound", "Friendly Fire" - wounds that occur in battle - but not necessarily inflicted by the enemy...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:45 AM
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14. Col. Hackworth has already publicly said the same
Can ya smell the desperation?
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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:45 AM
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13. What about the other "major" story?
That Kerry had called these lying jerks at home and apologized.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:47 AM
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15. I am assuming that that is an offshoot of him calling Dole
and telling him that he DID bleed-which is in itself a horrible and desperate spin.

I DID TOO BLEED BOB! :cry:

Like that. :eyes:
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:53 AM
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18. Huh?
Kerry apologized? For what? Do you have a link? A source?
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:49 AM
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17. Didn't I read that Dole's first Purple Heart also came from a
self inflicted wound. Blowback from a grenade he threw.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:05 AM
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21. Dole said so himself in his autobiography
and later referred to it being treated with Mercurochrome and a Purple Heart.
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 09:04 AM
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20. Kerry was never in Viet Nam
He was on the Daily show last night and he didn't deny it. He said something like he's trying to find out.
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