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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:21 PM
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Rove on FOX is lying
He just said that an attorney for the Kerry campaign is also a lawyer for a 527. That was cleared up earlier on CNN. This is not true.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:22 PM
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1. Are his lips moving?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:22 PM
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3. A mile a minute
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:22 PM
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2. Of course he is lying. His lips are moving
what did you expect?
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:22 PM
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4. This is not a live interview btw
It was taped earlier today. I saw a clip several hours ago.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:42 PM
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32. You could clearly see the huge amount of editing in the tape!
There were more hic ups during that interview then anything I have seen in a while!
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:24 PM
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5. Is he shedding his skin yet? n/t
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:24 PM
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6. Rove, Karen Hughes, Scott McCleland are all lying, PR shills.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:24 PM
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7. Well it was Rove
what do you expect.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:24 PM
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8. Who cares if he is....that's NOT THE POINT
They said they had nothing to do with the Smear Boat Liars for Bush. They did, they lied and now they are paying for it.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:25 PM
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9. More nonsense
Kerry's not getting a huge bounce out of the convention means he will not win the election. This, too, is nonsense. The country is so evenly divided that a huge bounce was not expected.

This guy is just not cutting any new ground here.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:25 PM
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10. what lawyer
are they referring to...?

What's his name...?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:27 PM
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14. I believe his name is "A. Lawyer"
It's good enough for the brownshirts.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:30 PM
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15. Rove didn't name the attorney
But it was discussed on Blitzer just a bit ago. Kerry's spokesperson said that -- an attorney who works for the Kerry campaign works at the same firm that employs another attorney who advises a 527. So it is not the same as Ginsberg who, himself, works for Bush* and the Swift Boat Vets.

Rove is telling a lie. He has to know better.
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:35 PM
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23. He probably does know better
He also knows nobody on Faux is going to challenge him.
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Ghetto_Boy Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:26 PM
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11. This guy is pure evil.....
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:26 PM
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12. If rover is on fox defending this BS then you know it's backfired
on them. Too bad.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:31 PM
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17. I can't believe that the Dems haven't been portraying Shrub...
... as a tool ... of Rove, Cheney, etc. Rove is the link between all the smear campaigns, going as far back as the Willie Horton ad -- orchestrated by his mentor, Lee Atwater.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:31 PM
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18. Yes, no one can get the memes right so he has to do it himself
And he isn't getting it right either. What he's said so far can get shot down. In fact, some already was on Blitzer no less than a 1/2 hour ago.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:44 PM
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34. They mentioned it was his first interview in 2 years!
That alone says everything that needs to be said!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:50 PM
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38. Great Point! He rarely peeks out of his spider hole.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:26 PM
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13. and furthermore your title is twice redundant
it's Rove, AND it's Faux so of course it's lying.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:34 PM
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21. Hee! Thanks, I stand corrected!
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:36 PM
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24. I just don't know how you can stand watching it
B-)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:39 PM
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28. I never watch FOX
But I was very curious today. I'm glad I watched it. And there's more to come in this broadcast. It's a taped interview that they're piecing out.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:45 PM
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36. You have to know the enemy!
Or be consumed by them!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:30 PM
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16. Rove just admitted to running the campaign out of the WH
The FAUX guy asked him if he did his own polling and he said YES! That they were polling 300 - 400 (?) people at a time, in the battleground states.

Remember how much trouble Gore got into because he might have made a couple of fund raising calls from the WH? Rove is running the whole show from the WH. Isn't this against the law?


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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:33 PM
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19. but Bush said he doesn't pay attention to polls
either Karl is lying, or Bush is, or he's flipped on this one.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:37 PM
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25. Yes, he was totally on top of all the numbers
As a matter of fact, he was quiet the 'expert' on such things.

But this is significant. He is a high level WH official. You can't use the WH to do your polling or run the campaign. It's still against the law.



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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:45 PM
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35. Bush polls on everything, including whether to wipe. n/t
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:37 PM
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26. Don't know if it's illegal...
... but I thought Boosh didn't poll.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:40 PM
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29. It was illegal when Gore allegedly made two phone calls
They even had a special investigation into the matter.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:43 PM
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33. Why not start a new thread about this
Your question might get buried in this thread. I'd sure like to know!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:53 PM
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40. Probably
will after dinner.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:57 PM
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41. Great!
I'll be looking for it. I'm sure you'll get some feedback on this from some DU historians. If he's doing it and it's illegal, then maybe we can make a stink.
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:33 PM
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20. Karl Rove? Lying?
Shocked, shocked I say.
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Scorpious_Maximus Donating Member (578 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:35 PM
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22. ROVE =
:puke:

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:38 PM
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27. So, if this interview was taped earlier
And Blitzer was making the same false allegations as Rove about an attorney working for Kerry and a 527 -- then we know where Blitzer got his questions from.

The only problem is that Kerry's spoeksperson shot Blitzer down. I guess the White House didn't see ot or have enough time for FOX to pull back the Rove interview. Or at least snip out some of the horse shit.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:40 PM
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30. CBS News
just went with the "Dem Lawyers are doing it, too" crap.

Of course, no specifics were given.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 06:40 PM
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45. Dem lawyers are doing it
but no one with the Kerry campaign is, and that's what matters.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:40 PM
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31. He was squirming so much...
He had liar written all over him. You had to love all those convenient camera angles when tough questioned were asked. At all times during these question they showed him from a back shot. I guess they didn't want the public to see him flinch and twitch!

They mentioned part 2 tomorrow.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:47 PM
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37. Rove says Bush has nothing to do w/ SBVFTT? Good enough for me...
Now if you'll excuse me, I have an appointment with a man who will be selling me the Eiffel Tower.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:52 PM
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39. Rove did his OWN lying, they must be worried.
He usually has some lackey that just called the Lie-Line.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 05:57 PM
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42. Difference between Bush and Rove lying
Rove knows when he is lying.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 06:03 PM
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43. What? Fox Has No Questions to Rove About Valerie Plame??
Not even one?

Fair and Balanced.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:00 PM
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46. It was exclusive...
Imagine that. His choice of networks, and Rove chose Fox.

I guess it's because of their high standards of journalism. :eyes:
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 06:35 PM
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44. wow...what a shocker
:eyes:
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:12 PM
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47. Their only excuse when caught in wrongdoing is the other guy did it too!
New Accusation:
Cheney is a serial axe murderer.

They counter:
SO what! Kerry killed innocents in Vietnam.

We counter:
That's not the same. It was war, and they weren't innocent.

They counter:
Kerry did the killing and framed it on Cheney.

And then great media that we have-twitch twitch-reports it as "your right to know both sides."

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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:26 PM
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48. I have a feeling another Bush-swiftboat connection will be revealed...
and Karl is just trying to stay ahead of the story. I'd love for the news to be that Karl himself got this group together.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 08:30 PM
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49. "Rove on FOX is lying"
Most fat bastards do.
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