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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:42 PM
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With regards to the LATimes poll today........
Kerry getting 3% of Republicans while Bush getting 15% of Democrats???? Just doesn't sound right. This was something a right wing acquaintance of mine pointed out, I didn't actually see all the poll results. This can't be right.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:43 PM
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1. It's not.
It sounds like bullshit, to me. I know a bunch of Republicans who won't vote for Bush.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:45 PM
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2. Hard to believe considering how Bush's croanies ripped off CA, and
were given free passes to do it. I have to believe people in CA are more intelligent than that! Geez they should start playing those Enron energy tapes again about grandma taking it in the a**, and laughing over it. That story died too fast for my tastes.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:46 PM
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3. It's A National Poll
It's not a Cali poll....
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:48 PM
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8. Then I really don't believe it. I think they have the numbers reversed.
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loathesomeshrub Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:47 PM
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4. Here's the link
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:48 PM
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6. I Registered To Read About The Lakers
till they traded away Cali's greatest treasure....
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:48 PM
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5. Expect the set up leading into the RNC Masquerade
First this La Times poll and the biggie will hit tomorrow the Gallup! We all know how Gallup is connected to the white house. Hell even Nazi rove brought up Gallup today many times ( he put it out there for a reason ) in his FAUX interview.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:49 PM
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9. But they don't pay attention to them.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:48 PM
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7. 15% of Democrats: I guess Zell Miller and Ed Koch were polled
Along with the mayor of St. Paul and that fat guy from Georgia I saw on TV several months ago. George W. Bush will win no more than 5% of the Democratic vote and I see Kerry winning about 10% of the Republican vote.
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:55 PM
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12. i'm sure a lot are Dixiecrats in the South
that never bothered changing their party registration. hell, the county I live in is majority Dem, but the Repugs always win here.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:50 PM
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10. whats suprising?
Dems always crossover.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:51 PM
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11. You're Right....
but 15% sounds a bit high...


I'd expect 7-10%


but 15%


Yikes....
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Ninchik Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 11:00 PM
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14. Were they asked if they voted for Bush in 2000?
Were they asked if they were new votes or old votes?
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 10:59 PM
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13. This poll will sure to be flogged by
doom and gloomers at DU for next few days. But national polls don't mean much, check out the electoral collge numbers. Kerry is still winning.

Kerry is winning Ohio and West Virginia, while Bush is only up 2% in Tennessee, a sign of serious trouble for him.
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 11:06 PM
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17. This depends entirely upon which polls you look at.......
Bush is ahead in the most recently released Ohio and WVirginia polls. I think what we are seeing is a swiftvet bounce. No worries here, it'll swing back over in a few weeks.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 11:14 PM
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19. The State Polls Follow The National Polls And Vice Versa...
nt
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 11:21 PM
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21. You don't have to be a doom and gloomer to be cautious.
Kerry is not the favorite, period. The circumstances are in Bush's favor, and I wish people would recognize that. Every time I see one of those "Who will be Kerry's Secretary of Defense" posts, I want to go bezerk -- well, more bezerk. It's energy wasted. If Kerry wins it will be because he ran a good campaign; those of us out here did what we could for him (and ourselves); the populace didn't want the Republicans to have control over the House, Senate, and the presidency; and he got a little lucky. We can directly influence the second one of those.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 11:00 PM
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15. Does the following make sense
Were the 245 voters who were not registered to vote counted in the poll?


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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 11:02 PM
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16. It's a NATIONAL poll...
I don't pay those much mind. :hi:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 11:16 PM
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20. All polls show the same thing. Kerry needs to capitalize on Iraq.
One potential bright spot for Kerry: The 5 percent of voters who said they were undecided were overwhelmingly negative on the direction of the country, the impact of Bush's policies and the decision to invade Iraq.

Somehow? :shrug:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 11:23 PM
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22. And he should
He's speaking a bit more about it now, but it's ripe for him to capitalize on, he really needs to hammer him on this. I think there was such anxiety about the rethugs hitting him with charges about him "flip-flopping" on the war, but they are going to do that anyway. Besides, most Americans find themselves in the same position Kerry is put in (initial support that turned around) so they won't gain any more traction on that score.

He can't come out and say "Here is the plan to get us out in 6 months" that would be crazy and stupid. But that leaves plenty for him to go at Bush on Iraq, including the recent prison reports.

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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-04 11:10 PM
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18. seems terribly stupid to me ... these results will make *'s "bounce" lower
and the same will be the case with the Gallup poll and others tomorrow

... it all turns into not only apples v. oranges ... it's becoming bananas v. rocks (registered voters, likely voters, new voters, new registered voters) heck, it's like Alice in Wonderland ... they can do a lot of shifting of "units of measurement" without ever batting an eye, and we are sucked into their silent premise that the "changes" come from identical measurement assumptions over time ...
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