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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:06 AM
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what's media's excuse for not playing Nixon-O'Neill tape?
are they kidding me?

They actually have a tape of the ringleader of this group talking to freaking Nixon, and they're not playing it every chance they get?

Nixon tapes are boffo box office, so even the excuse about the profit motive, which is their explanation for Laci, Jacko, etc., is bogus.

What about the tape of Nixon scheming with Colson about smearing Kerry, why doesn't that get run over and over. They talk plenty about the legacy of Vietam, fine, but what about the legacy of Nixon's dirty tricks.

They could even inform people that Karl Rove got his start in that dirty tricks operation.

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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:08 AM
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1. easy question
got a call from Rove baby who told them NOT TO...........that has to be the answer!
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digno dave Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:10 AM
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2. simple, that would be the end of the story...and we can't have that!!!
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:28 AM
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3. the media is NOT on our side!!
pure and simple.the only ones who try to bring out the truth are Matthews(lately) and Olberman....And I do think that their handlers are trying to rein them in...so what other source do you have?.....
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:33 AM
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4. Charles Colson APOLOGIZED to Kerry for their scheming against him.
Kerry also forgave Nixon before he died. Bush and O'Neill are two vindictive opportunists who only care about what they can destroy for their own power trips. They are small men and lesser human beings.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:37 AM
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5. those are very interesting facts
I didn't know about either of them.

Fascinating stuff for a news program, I'd say. How about a one-hour special on the Nixon connection to this presidential campaign?

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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:38 AM
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6. I heard it on CNN multiple times
Am I the only one?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:43 AM
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7. details, please
I don't have CNN. Did they play it in O'Neill's presence, or what was the context?

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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:50 AM
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8. I'm kinda POed at CNN
so I don't watch as much as I once did. I got home from work at about 1:00 yesterday afternoon. They were playing the tape and talking I thought rather strongly about how this deflates the Swiftboat Liars claims quite a bit. I seem to think it was Miles O'Brien, but I can't be sure.

Then last night I saw Arron Brown play it again, all while giving the old "arched eyebrow" which seemed to say, "Boy, is this guy screwed".

They did run the beginning of the stupid swiftboat commerical again so that viewers who are particularly slow would know what this was in reference to, so that wasn't that great, but at least the damn Nixon tape was mentioned.

There is also an undertone that this is all just silly political bickering ...
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:02 AM
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9. thank you
Aaron Brown is good at times, as I recall.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:18 AM
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11. IWhen? I only saw ONE transcript
from ONE show that when it was replayed that portion was left out due to breaking news.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:35 AM
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13. I already told you
Once yesterday (8/25) at about 1:00 PM or so, and on Arron Brown's show.

I'm not making it up. I don't work for CNN or anything :)
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:04 AM
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10. This Is Where WE become the media...
Impatience is a hallmark of DU...an asset as much as a demon. Thanks to the many heads-up folks here, we get the latest stories as their breaking and bringing up our own searches and findings. Things move fast...far too fast for the media and waaaaaay to fast for their impression of their viewers. In short, CNNservative thinks their viewers are dumb and must herded like cattle from one big story to the next.

It's obvious that anything that involves nuance (like the Kerry votes on the Iraq invasion), fairness (slimeboat lies being taken as credible without checking facts first) and relevence (they fit it in their own script...if it bleeds, it leads mentality) are totally beyond the range of any of these networks and thus other networks and sources of information have to be created that will result in the "mainstream media" to come around to a story.

Thus, I'm constantly emailing and directing people to websites and other online sources whenever they have a question, and just let them decide. Let the pressure build as an under-current builds (as it is) of people who are recognizing the embargo on lots of information and the bias in how its presented.

This slimeboat fiasco has been a bonanaza for us...and I hope it's realized. With all the refutes and links here, we haven't had a slime charge stick yet and every day we're ratting out another GOOP operative (some at the very core of this evil operation). We have to be careful not to get so far ahead of a story that when the "mainstream" media picks up on it we're onto our next big thing. This takes a lot of patience.

I'm hoping Walt Starr's * picture is getting a good once over in newsrooms around the country. While he did a great job in bringing up the question, it's still a question...these are the people (and there are a few still left) who will get the answers...but it may not be for another week or two or a month. But whenever it comes out or however doesn't matter...just as long as it does.

The Nixon tapes colmes played last night was the first time I've heard that conversation...although I saw references to the transcripts for quite some time. It's convincing that O'Neill was a liar then and a liar now and a Nixon operative...but except for us old "Watergaters" that means precious little to others.

We have to discredit O'Neill in the present...and that's being done nicely by the Kerry campaign...not play the Rove game of living in the 70's.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:30 AM
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12. Has CSPAN played it?
If they haven't, I wonder why? They play everything else including Monica and Linda Tripp!
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