I'm pretty certain that DU represents a majority of informed Democrats.

[trumad]

That is why the PUMA faction dissipated rather quickly here and the Hillary supporters are now supporting Obama. Oh sure we still have some bitter Hillary supporters and some stealth PUMA's, but not many.

Point is--- A truly informed Democrat and one that holds true progressive values, would never ever switch support to John McCain. We are dealing with a Moran factor here with the PUMA's and nothing more.

[TexasObserver]

1. Agreed. Anyone who "switched" to McCain is not a Democrat.

They may have worked for a Democratic candidate, but that doesn't make them a Democrat. It makes them someone who wanted someone who was running as a Democrat.

People who are attracted to personalities instead of issues are the fair weather Democrats who are no longer around. Real Democrats know we do this every four years, and they don't jump ship and join the evil empire just because their boy or girl didn't make the cut.

[hexola]

2. not gonna touch this one with a ten foot pole!

uh yeah...

:)

[Naturyl]

3. PUMAs are mostly Repukes in disguise, or racists/sexists.

Some were looking for an excuse to flee from the black nominee, while others became convinced that a woman was magically entitled to be the nominee because she is a woman.

In all cases, they are people we are better off without, if they were every really "with us" to begin with. Quite a few of them are flat-out Repuke agents trying to divide the party and ruin Hillary in the eyes of Democrats.

[leftofcool]

5. I see, so anyone who does not agree with Obama

or who believes he is not the best candidate is racist? So the Black woman who lives down the street from me, who thinks Obama is a fraud, who is a member of PUMA is racist? I can't wait to tell her.

[Bobbie Jo]

6. If she votes for McSame....she's NOT a Democrat.

Just tell her that.

[leftofcool]

7. The poster said she was racist

poster should explain himself/herself and answer my question. And quite frankly, you tell this 71 year old female Dem who has been voting Dem since before you were a wet dream that she is not a real Dem. She might even allow you to go on living.

[Naturyl]

9. Racist wasn't the only possibility i suggested.

God, you people are really testing me tonight. So much dumbth...

[leftofcool]

4. A "truly informed" Democrat

or informed human being, looks at all sides and makes a voting decision based upon the values that best represent him/her.

[trumad]

8. So a Democrat could look at McCain

and decide he or she represents their values? Then they are a Republican, not a Democrat.

[TheKentuckian]

11. Some form of Republicanisim

would appear to be in effect. Stupidity and/or evil tend to be the prime culprits. I find racism to be too confining but stupid and/or evil is broad enough a brush for me.

A vote for McCain is a vote for the end of the seldom lived up to ideals of America.

Further, just on the basis of competence and intelligence, I'd have to vote Bush again over McCain if the option was available. McCain's people are out of it. There's no rational excuse to be voting McCain, he's as dangerous a candidate as any we've seen.

[highplainsdem]

10. DU:GDP isn't representative of Democrats overall. Neither are the PUMAs.

I agree that Democrats should vote for Obama/Biden.

I also believe that the sorts of attacks on the Clintons that have become the norm in this forum should never have been allowed, and that it's contributed to a backlash against Obama among some Clinton supporters.

You would never know from the typical comments about Hillary Clinton and her supporters in this forum that she had much support within the party at all -- let alone that she nearly won the nomination, or that polls had showed a majority of Democrats had wanted her on the ticket as Obama's running mate.

I'm supporting Obama. But I am still a Clinton supporter. It's possible to be both. I find the constant denigration of Hillary Clinton and her supporters in this forum to be disgusting and beneath Democrats.

I posted a topic last night about her praise for Biden and Obama at the United Farm Workers convention, where she gave the closing address and spent much of the speech urging UFW members, who had endorsed her in the primaries, to vote for Obama. And a Clinton-hater here griped because the article indicated she hadn't spent every single minute of that address, where she talked about the UFW's struggle and history, talking about Obama/Biden instead. She gets criticized even when she's campaigning for Obama.



Editing to add that I'm distinguishing between DU in general and DU:GDP because the general tone of this forum, the level of hatred directed at the Clintons, is not typical of DU overall. I've heard from a number of DUers who pretty much gave up on GDP because it became so unpleasant and intolerant and negative toward the Clintons. But those DUers still post in other forums here.