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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:20 PM
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Bush caught in hypocriscy. He defended 527's in 2000.
When asked about 527's in 2000 regarding McCain smears on Face the Nation Bush defended them as being freedom of speech.

There's a transcript from CBS Face the Nation on the wensite below. The page can't be cut and pasted, but it's worth visiting the page to see what he said. It's laughable and a major "flip flop."

http://actforvictory.org/act.php/truth/articles/bush_on_527s_lies_hypocrisy_and_situational_ethics/





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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:21 PM
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1. OOops
I didn't mean to post this in the Lounge.

Moderators can you move this to GDiscussion?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:24 PM
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2. flippie and floppie that's bush...pass the word around.
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Texas_Dem Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:29 PM
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3. See what
the Media has to say about this. Probably not much, but I certainly am going to point it out to them. :-)
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:33 PM
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4. Flip flop!!!!!
:spank:
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:38 PM
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5. Please edit your subject line
It should read:

"Bush caught in flip-flop."

1. You misspelled "hypocrisy."

2. Freepers won't notice the misspelling, but DU's resident grammar nazis, like me, will. :evilgrin:

3. Freepers don't understand "hypocrisy" because it's a word of more than two syllables; they do understand "flip-flop."

4. We really need to hammer home the "Bush is a flip-flopper" meme.



(P.S. to Admins: I just ran the DU spell check on this. Did you know "Freepers" isn't in the DU dictionary? Neither is "DU's"! LOL)
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:40 PM
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6. I tried to change it before when I noticed it myself
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 04:44 PM by Armstead
But it wouldn't let me, because of a technical thingie.

Honest. The dog didn't eat my homework.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:43 PM
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7. Yeah, I understand
Those "rechnical" thingies will getcha every time!


Tansy Gold, the perfcet typsit who never misess her onw misteaks :D
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:45 PM
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9. I don't know what you're talking about
It says "technical"....

Heh, heh. It went down the memory hole.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:44 PM
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8. ha
:)
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:54 PM
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10. Excerpt.
Gov. BUSH: Bob, there are people spending ads that say nice things about me. There are people spending money on ads that say ugly things about me. (The ads are) part of the American process. I don’t particularly care when they do, but that’s what freedom of speech is all about.

BORGER: Do you think you should stop these ads?

Gov. BUSH: Let me say something to you. People have the right to run ads under the First Amendment in America.


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OilemFirchen Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 04:58 PM
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11. Lotsa guffaws here...
Bush on 527's: Lies, Hypocrisy, and Situational Ethics

August 26, 2004, 03:25 PM

In 2000, when Bush’s cronies from Texas set up a 527 to slander and help defeat John McCain, Bush thought they were just dandy…

SCHIEFFER: Well--but the fact is that you have launched these ads and that your friends have spent $ 2 1/2 million now…

Gov. BUSH: Well, these are--these are…

SCHIEFFER: ...on a, on an ad that you say you know nothing about, attacking his environmental record. I mean, isn’t that just exactly what Senator McCain says has gone haywire in America? Where somebody can come in, spend all this money, no one would have known who spent this money up there, attacking his environmental record if the reporters hadn’t rooted it out? And yet he--these friends may wind up spending more in New York than you and Senator McCain are spending up there.

Gov. BUSH: Bob, there are people spending ads that say nice things about me. There are people spending money on ads that say ugly things about me.

BORGER: Should…

Gov. BUSH: That’s part of the American--let me finish. That’s part of the American process. There have been ads, independent expenditures, that are saying bad things about me. I don’t particularly care when they do, but that’s what freedom of speech is all about. And this allegation somehow that I’m involved with this is just totally ridiculous. It is uncalled for. There is no--no truth whatsoever. This--the notion that this man who ran the ads spent the night in the governor’s mansion--I think Senator McCain just made that allegation--they’re--they’re just not true.

BORGER: Well, Governor…

Gov. BUSH: It is--yeah?

BORGER: ...do you think you should stop these ads?

Gov. BUSH: You know, let me--let me say something to you. People have the right to run ads.They have the right to do what they want to do, under the--under the First Amendment in America.





In 2004, after getting a taste of his own medicine – but after his creepy swift boat pals have attacked John Kerry viciously for weeks – the President has found religion on reform.

“President Bush will pursue court action to shut down so-called 527 advocacy groups…”
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:02 PM
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12. He also thought gay marriage was a states rights matter back in 2000.
He's had quite a few deathbed conversions, it seems:

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=42263
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:07 PM
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14. whatta jackass
Nothing surprises me in regards to this idiot anymore...
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:05 PM
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13. People have the right to run ads
Gov. BUSH: That’s part of the American--let me finish. That’s part of the American process. There have been ads, independent expenditures, that are saying bad things about me. I don’t particularly care when they do, but that’s what freedom of speech is all about. And this allegation somehow that I’m involved with this is just totally ridiculous. It is uncalled for. There is no--no truth whatsoever. This--the notion that this man who ran the ads spent the night in the governor’s mansion--I think Senator McCain just made that allegation--they’re--they’re just not true.

BORGER: Well, Governor…

Gov. BUSH: It is--yeah?

BORGER: ...do you think you should stop these ads?

Gov. BUSH: You know, let me--let me say something to you. People have the right to run ads.They have the right to do what they want to do, under the--under the First Amendment in America.

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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:16 PM
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15. What do you mean, it can't be copied and pasted?
August 26, 2004, 03:25 PM

In 2000, when Bush’s cronies from Texas set up a 527 to slander and help defeat John McCain, Bush thought they were just dandy…

SCHIEFFER: Well--but the fact is that you have launched these ads and that your friends have spent $ 2 1/2 million now…

Gov. BUSH: Well, these are--these are…

SCHIEFFER: ...on a, on an ad that you say you know nothing about, attacking his environmental record. I mean, isn’t that just exactly what Senator McCain says has gone haywire in America? Where somebody can come in, spend all this money, no one would have known who spent this money up there, attacking his environmental record if the reporters hadn’t rooted it out? And yet he--these friends may wind up spending more in New York than you and Senator McCain are spending up there.

Gov. BUSH: Bob, there are people spending ads that say nice things about me. There are people spending money on ads that say ugly things about me.

BORGER: Should…

Gov. BUSH: That’s part of the American--let me finish. That’s part of the American process. There have been ads, independent expenditures, that are saying bad things about me. I don’t particularly care when they do, but that’s what freedom of speech is all about. And this allegation somehow that I’m involved with this is just totally ridiculous. It is uncalled for. There is no--no truth whatsoever. This--the notion that this man who ran the ads spent the night in the governor’s mansion--I think Senator McCain just made that allegation--they’re--they’re just not true.

BORGER: Well, Governor…

Gov. BUSH: It is--yeah?

BORGER: ...do you think you should stop these ads?

Gov. BUSH: You know, let me--let me say something to you. People have the right to run ads.They have the right to do what they want to do, under the--under the First Amendment in America.



In 2004, after getting a taste of his own medicine – but after his creepy swift boat pals have attacked John Kerry viciously for weeks – the President has found religion on reform.

“President Bush will pursue court action to shut down so-called 527 advocacy groups…”
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:18 PM
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16. It didn't do it for me.
This is not my day for computer aptitude, I guess.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:18 PM
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17. It didn't do it for me.
This is not my day for computer aptitude, I guess.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:18 PM
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18. Obviously not my day for computer aptitude.
Edited on Thu Aug-26-04 05:19 PM by Armstead
I posted this once and it came out X3. Oh well.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:20 PM
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20. Are you getting "An error occurred during processing" messages?
n/t
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:20 PM
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21. You Can Say That Again
And again. And again.

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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 05:19 PM
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19. I think the original poster meant that you can't select a specific section
and copy-paste it. You have to do "Select All," copy it, paste it, and then single out the portion you want.

Anyway, that's what I had to do.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 06:53 PM
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22. Mr. President?
Your pants are on fire.
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snyder Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:36 PM
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23. They Were Not "527s"
at that point. Since 2000, there has been a campaign finance law passed with full Democratic support. So Bush's comments in 2000 can't really be applied to this situation, as much as I wish they would fit.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 10:10 PM
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26. I read somewhere that 527's were not included in the new Campaign
Finance Law. So its entirely possible that Bush* could have supported them in 2000.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:48 PM
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24. Flippity?
:wow:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-04 09:50 PM
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25. No doubt he thought where there's money, there's Republicans
Of course where there's people, there's democrats.
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