Hardball reports Kerry was under hostile fire

[eleny]

Taking Kerry's side on the issue of them being under fire. A document has come to light. Interviewing John Barry of Newsweek.

[Placebo]

1. Hardball reports Kerry was telling the truth

[eleny]

5. Yes, 3 for 3 reports

All back the allegation that the swift boats *were* under fire.

[girl gone mad]

4 for 4.

Don't forget about the separate after action report, as Barry reminded Matthews.

[proud patriot]

2. Right On I turned it on

:hi:

[MoonRiver]

3. A third citation was issued for somebody who was under fire

at the same place and time.

[senseandsensibility]

8. Yes but don't you realize

that these official "citations" mean nothing if the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth say otherwise? After all, they're for THE TRUTH.
:puke:

[MoonRiver]

20. Oh, thanks. For just a moment I forgot the RNC talking points,

and spoke truth to spin! If I were a freeper I'd be in trouble!
:spank:

Lucky for me I'm not!! ;)

[RamboLiberal]

4. Thurlow's crewman Lambert says they were under fire

Hope Tweety reports this.

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x779337

[eleny]

7. This is the third report that's now come to light

They're talking pretty fast but I think this is the one they're referring to. Thanks!

Now talking about the Cambodia issue.

[zuzu98]

6. "So we're three for three?"

"No, actually, we're four for four" on accounts that Kerry's boat was under fire. HA!

[eleny]

11. The fourth is the After Action Report

Yes!

[skip fox]

9. Sandusky has spoken out before, but here's today's story

Del Sandusky:

<snip>

Del Sandusky . . . says his boat was jarred by an explosion, probably from a
rocket, knocking the soldier, Jim Rassmann, off the boat. Kerry was thrown
against the bulkhead, injuring his arm. Sandusky says he could see muzzle flashes
from the jungle and bullets skimming across the water. Sandusky says he can't
remember if anyone was still shooting when Kerry pulled Rassmann from the river,
but in any case, the boat was banged up and taking on water. An official report
made available to NEWSWEEK shows windows blown out and the engine and
steering damaged; it's unclear from the report when the damage happened.

<snip>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5783805/site/newsweek/

[A_Possum]

21. But wait! There was firing a second before, and fire a second after...

But was there fire at the ACTUAL SECOND that Kerry went out on the bow to pull Rassman out of the water?

He could have run out there in the 30 seconds when there was no firing, and what's so brave about that, huh huh?

/sarcasm off

[liveoaktx]

10. Side note: Do you see how Tweety snickers when talking about penetration?

[eleny]

13. He seemed to be almost snickering when he opened the show

A real "gotcha" sort of expression.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. Heh, heh, heh. He said 'penetrate.'

Shut up, Beavis.

[vickie]

26. Tweety often times behaves as though he's in Jr. High.

[zuzu98]

12. hahahahaha Chris Matthews just compared John O'Neill

to Jauvert, the self-righteous policeman who chased Jean Valjean for years in Les Miserable.

I'm willing to bet that it was lost on the FReepers.

[eleny]

15. I was typing and missed it

Oh, the nuance! Love it. Thanks!

[VOX]

17. Freeper: "Who's this here Javert, some kinda French surrender-monkey?"

Uh, no -- try one of literature's more memorable obsessed freepers.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

18. You usually don't get to Les Miserables until about 11th grade

and most of the freepers dropped out after the eighth. I always thought of Ken Starr as Javert, but O'Neill fits, too.

[Cha]

19. Thanks for that classic reference from

tweety on o'neill dogging Kerry.

[eleny]

16. "Instead of arguing about it......we're learning stuff."

Nice!

[eleny]

22. Now - prison abuse in Iraq

Eyewitness account from a soldier who Chris is now interviewing.

[Pirate Smile]

23. I''m glad someone finally said how Hoffman got pissed at Brinkley's

book and that started the ball rolling.

They are saying you aren't supposed to brag and Kerry did but Kerry doesn't actually talk about any of the specifics or brag other than saying he served.

The stories came from his journal, not him yapping to others about what a hero he is.

[Ducks In A Row]

24. Barry mentioned that the military archives was swarming with reporters

well it's about time someone did the research. too bad it's too little almost too late.

[Cha]

27. I can't wait until the reporters..

"swarm" bush's military records..about 4 years too late!

[eleny]

25. Military Intelligence people in charge of the area

MI don't wear rank or name on uniforms. But they were in charge.

This soldier saw no dogs used in abuse. But he did see other abuse.

[Ducks In A Row]

29. talked about the confusion, the lack of proper equipment

how the soldiers on trial are at a terrible disadvantage because the military has all the power over their lives right now. So the soldiers makes whatever deal they can.

[MoonRiver]

28. Matthews: How did the soldiers get those dog collars and leashes,

and other torture equipment. Don't think they brought them over from Alabama, and doubts mom sent them in a care package.

[ItsMyParty]

30. Couple things

Saw this breaking this afternoon on MSNBC. But, I'm still looking for any of the cable news during their regular presentation of the news or network news report the Nixon tape thing. How come they are staying away from that and only having it appear on Aaron Brown, etc.??? And finally, if the reporters are swarming all over military records then when goddamn it is there going to be a real detailed tearing apart of Bush's record?? There is still a lot more to go on that--like finding out just what kind of 'activities' Mr. Drunk Coke Head was up to during that era and thus, more about his missed physical. Oh and why didn't this new found report make the network news tonight. They are just not putting the people straight on the developments.

[TacticalPeek]

31. "...today is a bad day at Black Rock for the accusers..." - Tweety

Bwaaahahahahaha!

:evilgrin:

[janx]

32. HA! Tweety's in rare form tonight!

Paddy Buchanan's going ballistic. His voice got very high--he's not happy with the truth.

We were laughing here almost as hard as Tweety was. Tweety had to work hard to maintain composure!