Say what you want but this is a smart pick.

[ej510]

This will be dangerous for Obama and Biden.

[NightWatcher]

uh nope. it totally kills the "experience" meme

and if Hillary pushes hard for Obama, we wont lose more than a dozen women to the repiggies

[Hansel]

22. And the celebrity meme.

Is that what running for beauty queen is all about? Trying to be a celebrity?

[Franks Wild Years]

1. Yeah, because...

..Miss Eighteen Months and a Beauty Pageant is ready to look Putin in the eye if McCain's health goes from underneath him.

[TornadoTN]

4. The question is, can she into his soul?

You know, since that is such an important skill for our leaders to have.

[redqueen]

5. Not to mention deal with Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Al Qaeda, effects of climate change, etc. (nt)

[greguganus]

24. You forgot Poland! n/t

[Cooley Hurd]

2. Thank you ever-so-much for your concern...

This is a gift for O/B...

[ej510]

10. like i said in another thread do not underestimate the ignorance of the american people.

[RichGirl]

32. You mean...

...the ignorance of the right-wing of the American people. Those morans were already on board with McCain.

[stray cat]

3. It completely abolishes any concern about Obama's lack of experience

Dems have to make sure they don't attach her because she is a female as that will be a trap.

[tigereye]

16. that never stopped Reps from attacking Hillary or any other female Dem

:shrug:

[still_one]

6. So what we have in mccain is a person with bad judgement nominating a VP with no experience

especially on international affairs

The only way it would be dangerous for Obama or Biden is if they fail to talk about the issues

She will definitely agree with supreme court judges like scalia and thomas

[Lucinda]

7. Yup.

[weezie1317]

8. Absolutely! Obama and Biden can handle this, but she's a dangerous pick.

[DefenseLawyer]

9. "But is he ready to lead?"

Can they seriously EVER use that line again?

[Jobama Biden]

11. I agree with you

It WILL attract at least 2-4% of undecided women, like it or not.

They WILL claim sexism whenever we attack her, and as we've seen, that can work.

On the plus side, however, he will lose some support among men, so his gains among women might balance out.

[Ikonoklast]

39. Let's pull statistics out of our ass

I say 100% of your post is bullshit.

[Phx_Dem]

42. Give women a little credit for not being stupid.

Democratic and Independent women aren't going to vote for someone just becuase they're female when they have absolutely NO experience
and are extremely conservative on women's issues. Feminists are not impressed by beauty queen titles, in fact it tends to piss them off. Republican women couldn't care less about voting for a woman; most of them just vote with their husbands and the rest don't give any special consideration to women.

Obama's not dumb enough to attack her personally. Biden will do so with a hammer and velvet glove -- he has tons of charm and knows how to use it. He doesn't need to attack her when she's as inexperienced as she is. He will tie her in knots with a big smile and lots of charm. And, I think they'll use female surrogates like McCaskill, Sebilious and Wasserman-Schultz to really pound her on women's issues.

I couldn't be happier with this insane VP pick, and I've read the Obama camp is ecstatic.

[OwnedByFerrets]

12. Cuz you say so???

:wtf:

[freestyle]

13. No. It is a desperation pick.

The only thing that stands out about Palin is that she is a woman. That is not enough. Also, with McCain's health, her clear unreadiness to take over becomes an issue.

[crispini]

18. Hammer, meet nail.

Very true.

[ej510]

25. I agree McCain is hoping that women will ignore policies and vote by gender.

[Vinca]

14. I don't think so. The woman is more anti-choice that McBush.

You've got to give voting women credit for a few brain cells and the majority are pro-choice.

[TexasObserver]

15. No, it's a gambit that will fail badly.

[Hope And Change]

17. Then you woke up realizing that you just had a bad dream.Duh...

[WeDidIt]

19. mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them

[goodgd_yall]

33. Lol!!!

[goodgd_yall]

36. Lol!!!

[grantcart]

20. it is the worse possible pick for McCain

he just took the experience argument away.


No one in this country believes that Palin is ready to be President

[TexasLady]

31. agreed n/t

[MarjorieG]

21. Dangerous only because of the low information voters, short time to the election, but still bad....

when you consider McCain's history on women's issues. Spotlight now on his really heartless policy choices of women and, again, lack of experience. The Rove machine will do what they can to fix the story, push media, and certainly the GOP could take over for her should something happen to McCain. Is that change? What division of responsibilities could he give her.

How much would the media cover for him, and not go after Palin on the merits?

Really do wonder in an American Idol age, and of Sarkozy's Carla, could they pull off a stolen election with just enough cover. Cannot get complacent.

(sp)

[Alter Ego]

23. I thought so too, but not anymore.

She kills off the "no experience" attack line that McCain was using, and it hauls his age and infirmity front and center. If he dies, is Sarah Palin, the 44-year-old governor of Alaska (who has been governor for only a year and a half), ready to lead the country?

[ej510]

26. Look someone else said we must not get complacent we must work 1000x

harder than the gop.

[Alter Ego]

27. Oh, I'm not suggesting we slack off--in fact, we should double our efforts.

But I'm saying that the Palin pick is not as frightening as everyone is making it out to be anymore. It's better than Mittens or Joe Lieberman or T-Paws, but she's the best of a shitty field of candidates.

[Hippo_Tron]

28. It's a haily mary, so of course it could be dangerous

But it could also fall flat on its face.

[oviedodem]

29. I bet Gallup is tied by tommorrow

[goodgd_yall]

30. Disagree

It will be interesting to see if this is as bad a choice as I think it is.

[WinkyDink]

34. Oh, please. To quote from "Macbeth":

DUNCAN
Dismay'd not this
Our captains, Macbeth and Banquo?

Sergeant
Yes;
As sparrows eagles, or the hare the lion.
If I say sooth, I must report they were
As cannons overcharged with double cracks, so they
Doubly redoubled strokes upon the foe:

[Dukkha]

35. He's using her as a human shield to criticism

since all he had before was his POW gambit which has run it's course. She brings nothing to the debate.

[Shakespeare]

37. Nah. It's very, very weak.

Kills his experience meme, and they're taking on someone in the middle of a pretty significant scandal. AND there's still a segment of republican voters who'll never vote for a woman, even as a VP.

Weak, weak, weak.

[AngryOldDem]

38. How?

Biden will wipe the floor with her at the VP debate.

The only way this will be bad is if we treat this woman as if she's made of fucking porcelain. She's in the race now. Sink or swim, babe.

[dionysus]

40. can i get a hit of what you are smoking?

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

41. I'd think Hillary Clinton and her strongest supporters will be inspired even more to vote against

this ticket. Many of her supporters wanted Hillary to be the first woman in the White House and even said that they would be extremely angry if Obama picked a woman who wasn't Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton was not just a symbolic female candidate but had enormous substance, especially in the domain of women's issues, something Palin doesn't have.

I do think, however, that in any debate against Biden, this changes the equation. Biden will want to handle her carefully and not beat up on this lady too much, as it might create some sympathy among female voters if Biden wipes the floor with her, as he could do with any opponent.