Maureen Dowd - Blechh.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

Just described Kerry as "lame." Though she was also pretty nasty to Bush*. But she's so snarky and superficial; she's so snotty just because she enjoys her own "wit." Poop on Maureen.

[Wickerman]

1. Painful

Isn't it?

[redstateblues]

23. What a Skank-Ugh

[Davis_X_Machina]

2. The hell with MoDo. It's All About Her. Always. Forever.

Love your sig. (I'm a Latin teacher...)

[Cha]

3. bartcop refers to mo as "she hates everybody".

I was expecting this.

[fairfaxvadem]

4. She's as smug as they come. Always right in her opinion.

She is privately thrilled to be a Bush insider and probably got their blessing for that GD book of hers.

I've seen her about 3 times shilling her book and this is it. Can't stand it.

Kerry is a bad candidate because he is "lame"? Give me a break Lady, give some real reasons. Lord knows we have hundreds of real reasons about Bush being a bad president.

BartCop is right: She hates EVERYONE.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

9. C'mon though, who would you rather have a beer with?

and then a line. Honestly? Then maybe another beer, then a couple lines cause they get better after some drankin. Then go out and get a 6-er with, bring it back to the house and do a GIGANTIC F***ing line with? Then when you are out of blow, you can go out to a bar order some drinks and try to score some more? Who would you rather drive home drunk with? Who would you choose for your drunk driver? That's what I thought.

[fairfaxvadem]

25. What is that all about???

And in any event, all the folks I partied with back in the day, all the beer, all the lines, all the pot, I didn't hang out with assholes like GW Bush.

[LastDemocratInSC]

5. She makes a good point - Kerry has to get tougher

She points out that Kerry said Bush should have gone to war even knowing what we know now. That was a Kerry fuck-up.

She is now bashing Bush for bashing McCain in SC in 2000. She is hitting hard against Bush v. McCain.

She is pointing out obvious problems with Kerry and the obvious shit-like nature of the *resident.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. She might have a point

and every now and then she writes a column that isn't superficial and snotty. She does come up with a nice phrase sometimes. My main beef with Mo is that she seems more taken with her own snippy cleverness than with the substance of the subject. She can make the point that she thinks Kerry ought to be more aggressive without gratuitously calling him "lame," for example. She totally annoys me, even when I agree with her.

[LastDemocratInSC]

15. Agreed ... but she's a player

Snarky and all.

[Supersedeas]

32. She put her finger on it--know what we know now momentum buster

Not a big Dowd fan here, but also don't find it necessary to use the "S" words below. Dowd is smart enough and we ought to be able to garner a point or two from her.

Kerry had some great momentum coming out of the Convention, but IMHO, he has lost a great deal of that energy. Sure, there may be lots of reasons for that--the TV media has been just stupid running up to and following the Convention.

Except for the lame comment, Dowd makes some good points to express why she is disappointed with Kerry, thus far.

1. Kerry has allowed the Bush 'help' (Rovians et al.) control large portions of the national conversation.

2. Kerry was slow to respond to the Swifties.

3. Most importantly, by taking the position that "knowing what we know now about WMD's and the intelligence in Iraq," Kerry's stance that he would still invade Iraq (though in a different way and with much more support) does sapp much of the energy brought to the Kerry campaign from outside sources.

I believe Dowd is disappointed because she feels that Iraq could and should be a bigger issue in this campaign. Kerry's stance takes some of the punch and focus that Dean and Moore's perspective on Iraq pumped into the Democratic movement.

Can Kerry still win without as much energy (and punch) garnered from these outside sources? Maybe, but it might make for a closer election.

Can Kerry still make Iraq a central issue distinguishing his leadership from Bush--yep...but the focus on a 'different way and with more international support' is a more nuanced approach and takes so much more time and effort to clarify--thus, the most stark and clearest distinction of all has been lost: and the intelligence 'failures' in Iraq have effectively been taken off the table.

Might be a shame, but it's not lame.

Keep your chin up people--we still have a long way to go here.

[SW FL Dem]

6. LOL - My 13 yr old is having a sleepover

I have 3 kids from repug families here and they are staying up to watch Late Nite!! I'm no huge Maureen fan, but it can't hurt for these kids to hear her view of Bush.

[Stephanie]

7. She did get a lot of good info out there, though

She called the Bushites "thugs." She said their people are either "the peers or the servants." She mentioned that two Bushites had to resign over the Smear Boat. She told the story of how they smeared McCain's wife and child. For people who get there news from late night talk she crammed a lot in.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

8. She's 100% Right! Kerry is LAME!!! Why does he listen to McCain?

:wtf:

You do not know my anger right now about Kerry weakness as a campaigner! :grr:

Why is John McCain so powerful??? Why the hell does JK listen to GD McCain???

:grr:

I wish we had Wes Clark or Howard Dean right now! Not John Kerry!!!

Kerry is a MERE WEAKLING!!!

:grr:

Kevin Philips is right, Kerry does not have what it takes to oust Bush.

McCain/Feingold was a GRAVE MISTAKE!!!

Clark/Dean - Dean/Clark: The only two winnning tickets!

Kerry/Edwards is a weak ticket, primarily the Kerry part of it!

[David Dunham]

11. Kerry outdid Dean and Clark in the primaries, fair and square.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. Pfui.

Nonsense.
Rot.
BTW, I was a Clark supporter. But Kerry is as tough as nails. Watch and see. Timing is everything.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

14. weakling?

When you're strong, you feign weakness. When you are weak, you feign strength.

I agree that Clark/Dean was a great ticket possibility. I wouldn't mistake that great possibility as the only possibility though, nor would i suggest that Kerry is weak because of it. I think he's running a pretty disciplined campaign thus far.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

21. Maureen - terrible in person, good book

Saw her on TV last week and I couldn't believe what a milk toast she was. I almost fell asleep listening to her mumble through the interview. Couldn't say sh*t if she had a mouth full of it.

But, I'm currently reading her latest book, Bushworld and it is very enlightening on Dowd's view of Bush41 and Bush43. She takes a few shots at Clinton and the Democrats but most of her attention is on the Bush boys. She continually writes on Bush41's total lack of leadership in domestic affairs (consumed with foreign relations) and Bush43 total lack of interest in anything to do with the presidency. Said he acts like he is pissed half the time because the job is harder than he was lead to believe. Also, the continual mantra of 43 is not to do anything like his father to the point that it is very insulting to dear ol' Dad. She can turn a phrase.

She has an interesting perspective as the White House correspondent for the New York Times during 41's tenure and as a political "insider" with 43. Neither come off well at all.

[jonnyblitz]

22. I plan to read it even though I don't like her.

Clinton and the DEMs deserve a few shots taken at them. more than a few...

[iwantmycountryback]

26. Load of BS

Clark is a great guy, but he's never been elected to anything and Kerry has been elected to be a U.S. Senator 4 times and a Lt. Governor 1 time. He knows how to campaign as he showed in the primaries, coming from nowhere to demolish his opponents. I was an Edwards supporter at the time (seem to be the only one here) and I was disappointed that he did not win, but he and Kerry are a great ticket. Kerry is a weakling? I mean you're joking right?

[PROGRESSIVE1]

27. If Kerry is really strong he is going to be the John Kerry.....

that spoke out against the horrible act of war in Vietnam, the Kerry who rain for senate 20 year ago. If he is strong, he will be the idealist that was when he was young. People are not going to vote for someone who is wishy washy. Remember what Bill Clinton said,
Strong and Wrong wins over Weak and Right. Kerry, if he wants to, can be both Strong and Right. It's his choice, but he must remember that his loyalties are to WE who support his candidacy.

[Andromeda]

31. That's crap!

Kerry is our candidate so get over it!

[LastDemocratInSC]

12. Maureen Dowd after the 2nd commercial

Gore is done ... nothing left for him.

Says her next book is "Hillary-Land". If Bush wins re-selection that will set up Mrs Clinton because she will appear as a tough alternative. Voted for the war but is more personable than any other person.

Who next for Republicans? McCain because he is letting "Bush slobber all over him now."

Bush as a visionary? "Anything can happen".

More after the next commercial

[DieboldMustDie]

18. "Anything can happen"

including the possibility that, in a few months, we'll be seeing Iraqi women all wearing burkas.

[DieboldMustDie]

16. Bush spent the Vietnam years defending Texas from Oklahoma

she sez. ;)

[DURHAM D]

17. She never makes eye contact - doesn't look at the camera.

She is all about some Maureen.

[LastDemocratInSC]

19. After the commercial

She seems very uncertain and shallow, overall. A creature of the moment. Some good points, some bad points, too much muddy middle, a lady who, by her own admission, has "been grooming all day" to fit into the situation.

[ochazuke]

20. Sardonic witch

Also on Charlie Rose, where they showed her cool book-cover. She pointed out superficial similarities between * & Kerry. I thought "oh, how fascinating" (not). How could she be more boring? It's like Hitler and Roosevelt both wore size 8 shoes, who could imagine that one was a fascist dictator and the other, the saviour of democracy?

I enjoy reading her column sometimes, but her personal style is way too smarmy. I don't think she could ever actually praise anyone in public life. (Except of course to build them up so she and the rest of the media can make a career of tearing them down.)

Oh, and she wasn't nearly harsh enough on *, at least on her Letterman appearance. I guess that would have been un-cool.

[gulliver]

24. A female Bill Maher who took a lot of "lit" classes in college.

She positions herself as merciless and trenchant. She can turn a phrase, but sometimes she will let a well-turned phrase take precedence over balance and essential truth. Her specialty is saying things other people would not say -- from all sides. She is no one's friend. She is a machine with "Delphic" pretensions.

At least that is how I see her.

[ochazuke]

28. What's going on here?

Snarky
Superficial
Snotty
Skang
Smug
Snippy
Shallow
Sardonic
Smarmy


How come all the words used to describe her start with the letter 's'?

[incapsulated]

29. And other words that begin with "S"!! n/t

[Philostopher]

30. Botox doesn't start with an 'S' does it?

It's so hard to be arch when the entire top half of your face looks like plaster of Paris -- I really felt for her. How can she be properly snarky when her face is the consistency of warm Gouda?