Faux, the Swiftbots, and Jon STEWERT

[UTUSN]

At least two Faux circuses ("programs") have used the following stunt today, or are they really THAT DENSE.

On the Beltway Bozos and the FauxWatch things, they made reference to JK on the Daily Show and how Jon asked him about Cambodia.

I saw that show. Jon was doing what he always does, which is TO BE A COMEDIAN, and he was clearly on JK's side and was trying to get JK to loosen up.

Jon started his schtick by saying, "I watch cable, Senator, and there are serious doubts that you WERE EVER IN VIETNAM AT ALL!" This cracked JK up, and they went into a chat about the ridiculous things that gain currency. Later Jon asked something about how the swiftbot thing was a distraction from real issues. JK started to answer "straight", talking about health care and such, and before he could get bogged down on a COMEDY SHOW, Jon interrupted and said, "(Who cares about that) Senator, WERE YOU OR WERE YOU NOT IN CAMBODIA!" This cracked JK up again.

O.K., now both Faux circuses are saying that JK did not ANSWER THE QUESTION, that he chose to go on the Daily Show "instead of 60 Minutes" and didn't answer the question. Jon was CLEARLY being satirical, poking direct, wicked fun at the non-news-probing cable "journalists".

I saw Jon with Wolf BLITZER, where idiot BLITZER attempted to ask him a question of opinion on politics, and Jon stopped him dead, saying as he has said many times, "No, no. You don't understand. YOU are the news person. *I* am a comedian. I am a FAKE anchor."

Are those people quoting STEWERT "straight" REALLY THAT DENSE, or just jiving their Fauxbots?

[Christof]

1. What pisses me off about the right...

is that they make issues out of non-issues.

It's really annoying. :grr:

[qanda]

2. Jon Stewart is probably already aware they're doing this

But you send it to him anyway. The morning after JK on The Daily Show, Drudge had it on his website that John Kerry didn't answer the question about Cambodia. Just ridiculous!

[ochazuke]

4. And yet...

the media won't ask Bush why he won't ask SBVT to pull their ads. They let him get away with a total nonsequitur, i.e. ban all 527s.

Mat Lauer, who I guess isn't a journalist after all, gets an interview with shrub and lobs the slowest softballs masquerading as tough questions.

Re: another post in this thread... 60 Minutes is in re-runs now. They were bringing out bush scandals week after week, but without thier critical eye, SBVT gets away with murder. Come back from vacation you guys...dammit.

[alarcojon]

3. They are that dense

This doesn't surprise me. Another "tactic" they use it to get some right-wing hack to ask a bullshit hypothetical like "is it possible your memory is faulty about X." Since any honest person would say "well, it's possible.....," the next thing you know Fox is saying "Kerry campaign admits they may have lied about X."

They have that much faith that their audience is so biased and lazy that they won't even try to figure it out for themselves.

[TacticalPeek]

5. I missed the Beltway Bozos, which I do as often as possible.

I just never see anything on there worth watching. Just a bunch of shilling and whoring.

But I must beg to differ about Faux Newswatch tonight. I watch that whenever I can, and tonight I thought they had the best discussion of swiftliars vs. journalism I have heard thus far.

Neil Gabler pointed out the hyping by the media (cable specifically), Rove playing the press "like an organ", etc. Even the RW counter by Pinkerton and Thomas was civil, I thought.

It's rebroadcast later, and IMHO, Newswatch is the best media criticism show on teevee (way better than Howie). And the only thing on Faux usually worth watching.


"FOX News Watch" airs Saturdays at 6:30 p.m. and 11:30 p.m. ET, Sundays at 2:30 a.m. and 6:30 a.m. ET and Mondays at 3:30 a.m. ET

[UTUSN]

6. While I Engaged in GENERAL Sliming of Faux, as I Always Will,

the specific point that made me get out of bed (the re-run), turn on the computer, and made me post was what they said using Jon STEWERT, as said in the original post.

I do monitor both of those Faux circuses regularly and I agree that FauxWatch is, indeed, less barf inducing than the other one. But GABLER gets pimp-slapped roundly at the end of EVERY circus and Jane is SO fair and moderate that she zeroes herself out. There is NO doubt that the end impact of their discussions is WHOLLY within the Faux wingnut universe.

These two examples of the mis-use of the JK appearance on TDS were two that came close together on the same propaganda outlet. There have been other similar ones elsewhere the whole week since the original airing of TDS.

[GiovanniC]

7. It Was So Easy to See Jon Was Parodying the So-Called "News"

And leave it to them to be too dense to "get" it.

This is how it went down. John Kerry was talking about Bush. He was kind of launching into a bit of a campaign speech. Stewart isn't wild about it when his political guests do that, so he made a joke by satirically indicating that none of that stuff mattered as much as the stupid rumors that are flying around. Here's a partial transcript:

JOHN KERRY: Sure I'm surprised. But surprised in a sense. But now that I begin to see the web and the network, I'm not surprised. I think-- you know, it's politics. And for whatever reasons, the-- the-- and I think Americans will discover it as we go forward in the next four or five weeks, George Bush doesn't wanna talk about the real issues. I mean, what's he gonna do? Come out and say we lost 1.8 million jobs? Four million Americans lost their healthcare. We're going backwards on the environment. We-- angered everybody in the world.

JON STEWART: Sir, I'm sorry. Were you or were you not in Cambodia on Christmas Eve? (Laughter) They said-- you said five miles. They said three. (Laughter and Applause)

[UTUSN]

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