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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:02 AM
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Repubs rant that "Kerry Catholics" aren't REAL Catholics.
Yet, when their party is facing the cameras, they put up "Kerry Catholics" as their featured speakers, Rudy Giuliani, Arnold Schwarzenegger and George Pataki are all pro choice, pro gay rights Catholics.

When the cameras are off and they are servicing their base, however, they rage against "Kerry Catholics" and accuse them of not being a REAL Catholic.

Something to keep in mind this week.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:06 AM
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1. The GOP really hates Catholics
They're in bed with the hard-core fundies like Falwell, Robertson and Moon, who think Catholicism is a cult.

Keep in mind, the Pope is against things like the Iraq War and the large socio-economic divide in our country. I've rarely heard anything about gay marriage and abortion in Catholic church services. I have heard about war and poverty, though.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:36 PM
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12. Thank you Rat T
They hate Catholics, they really do, the freepers often go after it. Catholicism may not agree with us on everything y'all but its a worthly faith.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:08 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure that's going to win the hearts and minds
of many Catholics. If this is the best they can do at this point, the GOP is looking really desperate.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:08 AM
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2. Kerry's share of the Catholic vote will be similar...
...to Gore's, perhaps better.

There looks to be an anti-bishops' backlash:

n the Pew poll, Catholics express greater opposition than other Americans to the idea of Catholic leaders denying communion to politicians who defy teachings on abortion.

While 64 percent of Americans disapprove of such action, 72 percent of Catholics called it improper.


CSM 24 August 2004
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:09 AM
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3. Those guys are Catholics? I had no idea.
I'm a Catholic from a solid Catholic family and I can tell you that no one would identify these three as Catholic. New Yorkers obviously knew but I doubt much of anyone else did.

I thought Arnold married Maria and agreed to raise the kids Catholic.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:10 AM
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4. Just what is a Kerry catholic I wonder...
...any catholic who votes for Kerry or is a democrat? Well, more of the same Bushit that separates and divides, "You are either with me or against me. And if you are against me then you are a terrorist" :wtf:
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wickywom Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:13 AM
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5. view from nc
the catholics in this state for the most part are line in step with the repubs--
aborion and birth control-- bush can do no wrong.
I'm personnally convinced the christian coalition
is trying to take over the american catholic church
Seems to be working down here.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:21 AM
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6. They're not trying to take the Church over...
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 11:21 AM by Davis_X_Machina
..they're trying to cause it to schism, and absorb the fragment that votes their way.

Classic wedge-issue tactics.

Of course, it makes a lie out of the 'seamless web' doctrine that the Church actually teaches...

NC Catholics are largely not home-brewed -- they're recent migrants, or their immediate descendants. Their political behavior is similar to all white populations that are new to the South and West -- they're absorbing the political culture into which they have been inserted.

Insofar as white migrants, or more accurately the companies that employ them, were attracted to the South for economic reasons -- no unions, low wages, low regulations, etc. -- to some extent the migrants, or the companies that employ them, are predisposed to move rightward on the political spectrum in the first place.

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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 11:31 AM
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7. Time to ask if Bush* "Christians" are real Christians
I haven't seen much evidence that most rw so-called christians follow many of the teachings of Jesus. Most of them cite only the OT for evidence of what Jesus would do. Most live as though they have never heard of the sermon on the mount.

Many even seem to be remarkably unaware of parts of the 10 commandments they so love - like "Thou shalt not kill" and "Thou shalt not bear false witness". Or they have convenient work arounds for those awkward commandments.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:04 PM
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8. Good. Bush Christians aren't real Christians, they're FASCIST THEOCRATS.
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OSheaman Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:09 PM
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9. Draft-Doging Cokeheads for Jesus
Seriously, there's a giant rolleyes going on here.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:12 PM
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10. I guess Bush is more of a Catholic than Kerry is.
Bushie Republicans are dividing the Catholic Church now. Add that to the long list of good things that the Bushies feel they have to divide, the better to conquer.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:35 PM
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11. mother fuckers!
I just got back from a birthday dinner for one of the truest Catholics I know and its thanks to her I am a dem. How fucking dare they. Arnold is Catholic? I didnt know.
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 03:40 PM
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13. Tell that to the priest marching in NY today!
From Wisconsin he said. He must march to be visable!
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