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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:16 AM
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If Palin steps down...
...you can damn well bet that--this time--John McCain is going to go with who HE wants
as his running mate.

Folks, that will be either Lieberman or Ridge.

The MSM has consistently reported, during the past two days, that McCain's
first and second choices were Lieberman and Ridge, respectively. McCain
was told that if he picked Lieberman, that there would be an open fight
on the convention floor.

From a position of anger, weakness and frustration--McCain selected Sarah Palin.

Can you imagine how infuriated John McCain is right now? His own party
threatened to destroy him if he picked Lieberman, so he allowed them to
have THEIR way, and now he is suffering the consequences of not doing
what he wanted.

If Palin ends up stepping down, you can make damn sure that McCain will
do whatever the hell he pleases as far as his running mate choices.

McCain will pick Lieberman or Ridge, then the Fundie base of the party will implode
and it's hello to an Obama/Biden 2008 victory.
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GarbagemanLB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:16 AM
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1. McCain's judgement will be heavily criticized if she drops out, and it doesn't matter WHO replaces
her.
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:25 AM
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10. i know. isn't it great? n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:35 AM
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15. Yup. McCain is boxed in with Palin
He needs to dump her but when he does it draws even more attention to his lack of judgment.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:18 AM
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2. She won't step down.
She CAN'T step down. She's hurting him now, but if they drop her they are stick-a-fork-in-'em done.

Cognitive dissonance is carrying the True Believers through right now, and that's who Palin was picked to appeal to.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:21 AM
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6. Think about the last eight years
If there's been one GOP theme, it's "Never apologize, never explain, never admit you made a mistake"

They'll stick by her, spin it hard, and hope for the best.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:23 AM
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8. Yep.
They don't mind being wrong, but they hate admitting it.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:19 AM
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3. big oil had alot to do with Palin on the ticket....
and McLame has had big oils dick in his mouth for eons....
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:19 AM
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4. I think Lieberman or Ridge may challenge us electorally.
I honestly believe either man has more cred with former imbittered Hillary supporters. I also think Lieberman would win over some conservatives regardless of his position on choice?

I'd be concerned if he chose either man, personally. But a nice compromise would have been Pawlenty. He actually does have experience as a Governor, and he's a darling to Conservatives in Minnesota.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:21 AM
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7. No if she steps down its over

How can you elect a man president who had 6 months to get the decision right and then fucks it up


If he is in the middle of an argument pisses of Putin and Putin invades Ukraine what is McCain going to do ask for a Mulligan?
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:23 AM
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9. It depends on how it's sold.
People forget quickly in politics, a month is an eternity.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:30 AM
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14. no it just dies if you watched the Eagleton affair everyone in the country knew it was dead

First they step down and then they have to go around and find somebody that will accept it


It just gets real messy and all your credibility is shot.

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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:31 AM
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17. Perhaps we'll see?
Perhaps not. ;)
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:20 AM
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5. The PArty wanted Romney or PAwlenty
HE picked who DOBSON wanted.

He is between a rock and a hard place now.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:27 AM
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12. I doubt either Romney or Pawlenty would accept the VP spot now. n/t
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:51 AM
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16. No way would they accept now
McCain is completely toast.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:26 AM
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11. Lieberman and Romney are problems that would take out McCain if Palin steps down.
Ridge, since I don't know him and Polenty might be the only ones left to go. They might be the safest.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:29 AM
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13. IMO, McCain will go before Palin. n/t
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