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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:26 AM
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Bush "Furious-believes he is being treated disrespectfully."
Sidney Blumenthal

The Battle Between McCain and Bush: The Cancelled First Night, The "Furious" President and the Palin Gambit


Posted September 2, 2008 | 09:48 AM (EST)


..............

Almost certainly, Bush had to cancel his planned speech while Gustav loomed. But the sources say he didn't like the idea and felt pushed. Bush is described by sources as "furious" at McCain for being deprived of his last appearance before his party, which nominated him twice, as a sitting president. He believes he is being treated disrespectfully.

Shuttering the convention for a night was probably inevitable given the hurricane, but to provide a cover-up for scratching Bush and Cheney it became absolutely necessary. But once the hurricane passed, Bush asserted his primacy as president and forced his way back on the schedule to deliver a satellite speech to the convention.

McCain is desperately seeking ways to pivot from Bush, whose in-person appearance on the first night of the convention threatened to obliterate his message as a "maverick" and "reformer." Even though McCain himself would not be onstage, Bush and Cheney would have dominated the opening and underlined continuity between their administration and McCain. The cancellation of the first night of the convention is a small price to pay for their absence.

McCain's campaign is perfectly aware of the mortal danger of Bush's embrace. He has needed the president to rally the Republican base. But once he has the nomination his imperative is to project himself as an antidote to what has gone wrong with Republicanism.

more at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sidney-blumenthal/the-battle-between-mccain_b_123147.html
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:26 AM
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1. Give it a few years.....
8643
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:28 AM
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32. He can speak in front of the whole world when they televise his trial.nt
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CherokeeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:32 AM
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40. I'll Be There For THAT Speech....
With a bottle of champagne in hand!!!!

:applause:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:38 AM
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43. I don't know -- it would break my record of never having seen a single one of their speeches
I can read them, but seeing and hearing them creeps me out too much.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:50 PM
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54. I wouldn't be there, either...and besides they'll shuffle bush
off the Paraguay.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 03:37 PM
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65. What, they can't telecast from Paraguay? Things change, there may be no safety there
or anywhere! :hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 03:51 PM
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67. That's too true..things change.
:hi: gristy:)
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:27 AM
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2. Wow, pretty soon all McCain will have left are the Religious Whackjobs
It's just too surreal for words.

And people had the gall to say Hillary's campaign imploded. HA! We're seeing a REAL implosion now.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:28 AM
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3. I like where this is going...
a battle of overinflated egos.

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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:36 AM
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15. Me too. "Fine. Screw you, John, Just for that I WON'T bomb Iran."
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:28 AM
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4. Bush is thinking "c'mon McCain, we all know you're not going to win anyway"
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:30 AM
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5. Bush's right: no one respects him. eom.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:30 AM
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6. Bush is now in the keynote speaker spot, replaces Rudy who was scrubbed
Thank you dumb asses for bringing junior to the forefront of your convention.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:18 AM
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25. As far as damage goes, is there really a difference?
Rudy was as bad as Bush, except his scope ended at the city limits.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:21 AM
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30. Reports from Delegates said off the record they were glad Bush didn't show up
They now have tied Bush to McCain with this move which is more important to us
than 911 Rudy.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:28 AM
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38. But they're making him do it from SATELLITE!!!!
They refuse to even have the guy on stage!!!! The party is in shambles!!!!!
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:01 PM
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58. He will talk about the Hurricanes ..
thinking that he has rehabilitated his image.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:46 AM
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46. Exactly. And what a tragic loss that we won't get to hear Rudy
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 11:47 AM by Old Crusoe
speak to the faithful.

How uplifting and enlightening that would have been...
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:06 PM
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62. Seriously??? YAY!!!!!
I can see Republicans being happier with seeing Rudy than Bush. And now we all have to see Bush in all his glory, ROFL!!!

This is gonna be good.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #6
66. Damn, it must suck to be a Republican. n/t
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:30 AM
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7. In a sense...he IS!!! Just like Gore was too Clinton...(sort of)
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 09:31 AM by hexola
But just like them to eat their own in the name of victory!

Ya know - Bush was a winner...He won (arguably yes) twice. Why distance yourself from that. Like him or not, he was a winner for the GOP.

Isnt this the same sort of mistake Gore made in distancing himself from Bill Clinton...???
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:33 AM
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8. It was a mistake for Gore. It isn't for McCain
The difference is a 68% approval rating vs. a 28% approval rating.
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:45 PM
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51. It was THE mistake for Gore
Option A 'Eight record years of prosperity and progress. Don't risk it. Don't go back to Bush

Option B: I'm distancing myself from all that. Let me tell you about myself. I'm Al Gore. I'm an Alpha Male.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:01 PM
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57. It was a mistake and to put joe traitor lieberman
on the ticket was an abomination but Gore came into his own and after 8 years of bush it's the Perfect Storm for Obama and us.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:34 AM
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9. An asshole to the very end
Such a self-centered bastard.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:34 AM
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10. Doesn't this show that McCain is a pansy?
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 09:47 AM by TwoSparkles
McCain doesn't even have the clout in the Republican party to craft
the convention in ways that will help him win the Presidency?

This article makes McCain sound like some hand-wringing pansy, who is
a victim of the big boys in his party--who will ultimately wreck his
Presidential chances.

McCain obviously doesn't want Bush or Cheney to speak at the convention.
So, he just stands in the corner, muttering, "Ohhhhhh noooooes!" as
Bush muscles his way back onto the convention speech roster?

If McCain is this ineffectual while he's running for President, imagine
how ineffectual he'll be as a President?

Does McCain think that Bush and the neocon brigade will disappear after
McCain is elected? They'll be beating down his door and forcing their
agenda down his throat. They'll be pressuring McCain and hammering him
24/7.

I guess we're seeing how McCain will handle that pressure. Not very well.
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galaxy21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:36 AM
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14. He's the worst thing that ever happened to the republican party
Edited on Tue Sep-02-08 09:36 AM by galaxy21
And the repubs know it.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:47 AM
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19. You have to wonder...
...why they allowed him to be at the top of the ticket, in the first place?

Is this just payola for hugging Bush so many times?

Ughhh.
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:50 AM
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20. Except he didn't "happen to" the Repukes - they CHOSE him - those idiots! eom
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:24 AM
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36. Somebody posted that he's not even sure where he will deliver his speech..
now he is talking about Florida. The whole damn thing is in disarray. After the extremely coordinated and unified effort the Democrats just displayed, this is just a train wreck. Nobody is in charge.
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:28 PM
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50. It would if we had a reliable source indicating that it is true.
Unnamed sub-sources from a non-mainstream source is not much to go on.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:54 PM
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55. More cowardice from mccain..
Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Tue Sep-02-08 02:23 PM
Original message Because Campbell Brown was mean to Tucker Bounds, a

McCain interview on Larry King Live was canceled


Brown v. Bounds on Election Center

Things got heated on Campbell Brown: Election Center last night, as Brown continually pressed Sen. John McCain spokesperson Tucker Bounds on Veep nominee Gov. Sarah Palin's foreign policy experience.

When asked to provide, "one decision she made as commander-in-chief of the Alaskan National Guard," Bounds continually sidestepped the question.

Eventually, he turned the tables. "Certainly you don't mean to belittle every experience, every judgment she makes," he said. "I'm belittling nothing! I just want to know one judgment or one decision," she responded.

What ensued was a discussion of whether a governor has control over the his/her state's National Guard (only on domestic issues — overseas handled by Pentagon).

Insiders tell us that, because of the rough line of questioning from Brown, a scheduled McCain interview on Larry King Live has been canceled.

Brown is headed out to St. Paul later this week, and TVNewser will be talking to the CNN anchor.

Click continued to see the showdown (it gets good at about 4:00)...

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/politics/brown_v_bo...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6882780
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:35 AM
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11. That's the price for behaving disreputably. n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:35 AM
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12. It's completely humiliating that the sitting GOP President would be persona non grata
at the GOP convention. It is a humiliation unparalleled in modern US history.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:21 AM
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29. I agree, if the republican party feels they are such perfection, why are they
distancing themselves from the very person they once proudly ensured got the nomination?
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Chloroplast Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:18 AM
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34. It IS an insult. Imagine if Bill had been barred from the Convention.
I don't like Bush but the Republicans are acting as if George is the SOLE reason the country's in the shape it's in. Show me a Republican politician/pundit that didn't support his schemes and I'll acknowledge their dissent. At this point, they've made their money off of the misery of others and are now biting the hand that fed them.
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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #12
63. That's what I was thinking, too.
As the president, he's the de facto leader of the party. And not even allowed to appear on stage. ROFL. I love it.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:35 AM
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13. Aww, poor Bushie-Poo...
:cry:
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:37 AM
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16. Faux news hinted bush still might show up tonight as a surprise.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:19 AM
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27. LOL. I'm guessing he won't get the same reception as when Obama
showed up on Biden night!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:37 AM
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17. The GOP to bush, with a wave of their hand, in their very best Barbara Bush tone of superiority:
"I'm through with you!"

Ask Al Franken, he'll tell you. :)
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 09:39 AM
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18. Oh, the wittle Bushie boy--has his feelings hurt.
:nopity:
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:08 AM
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21. May G.W. Bush Be
...dipped in a bucket of shit.

Warm shit, too.

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:12 AM
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22. Bush is like the guest who is ushered away from a party...
only to come back to the gathering, shit-faced and belligerent after doing whiskey shots at the local dive, and start swinging madly at anybody in his path.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:12 AM
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23. Damn. I must be a Republican.
'cause I don't respect GWB either.

:cry:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:18 AM
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24. Blowback's a bitch, sir.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:18 AM
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26. good to see he is catching on
I disrespect him every day.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:20 AM
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28. I knew this would happen eventually.
McCain's between a rock and a hard place--he has to walk a fine line of both distancing himself from Bush and embracing him at the same time. It's the only way to keep the tenuous alliances within the Republican Party together.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:22 AM
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31. even his own party hates him....poor widdle junior
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 10:56 AM
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33. He's lucky he isn't in the dock at the World Court.
Perfect NPD.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:22 AM
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35. Welcome to the club, shrub..
we're furious that you trashed this country and our Constitution. BTW you reap what you sow, you get the respect you deserve.

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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:27 AM
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37. Fuck him.
Imagine how he'd feel if he had a clear idea what most of us, including a fair number of 'pukes, really think about him. Idiot.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:30 AM
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39. Oh, boo fucking hoo.
:nopity:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:32 AM
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41. I can't imagine why Shrub would believe he deserves an iota of respect.
If he had a normal ego, he'd put his tail between his legs and go cut brush at the pig farm until inauguration day.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:36 AM
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42. Careful, McWacko...you're gonna piss off that 24% who still like da shrub
Looks like you might need them after all...:shrug:

but then again....Who Cares! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:40 AM
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44. neither the VP. nor the president will appear at teir own convention, that is too much
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:44 AM
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45. Bush is walking away from responsibility if McCain loses

turns out that Palin helps Bush out lol
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:02 PM
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47. Slow learner, isn't he? n/t
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wvbygod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:20 PM
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48. Bush is described by sources as "furious" at McCain. What "sources"???
I don't suppose we could get the names of these "sources" could we?

Jumping on sharks like this without some sort of credibility is getting old and tired.
Will this source release their "sources" of such juicy information? If not, then it's just
one more big disappointment in the ongoing efforts to hit them with their own BS.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:25 PM
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49. Well, Bush Has Treated America "disrespectfully" Over These Past 8 Years
So, a little turnabout is fair play.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:45 PM
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52. Aw, did poor widdle boots get his feewings hurt?
FUCK OFF ALREADY, YOU FUCKING PSYCHOPATH!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:49 PM
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53. That's funny..I thought the caption was about
"bush thought we Progressives were treating him desrepectfully":silly:

His own Party!! Get a clue, asshole..rove can't save ya now. But, oh, yeah, rove says "Biden is overrated". Wonder what he thinks of his work on you, bushboy?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 01:59 PM
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56. Dog turd complains "None of the kids want to play with me!"
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:02 PM
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59. .........
:nopity:
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:03 PM
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60. this is like Hillary vs. Obama, but better
because it's TRUE. :rofl:
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:03 PM
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61. Chimpsters just needs to Bogart his ass right onto that convention floor and
speak his mind. yes siree bob.

This actually looks great for Mccain that he's pissy about it. Shows McMaverick is independent of Chimpy and makes it harder to do the Bush=Mccain punch.

Go ahead Bushie, they really DO want you there to show your support. Do it for the sake of the party.

LOL.
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:08 PM
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64. Chimpo's throwing crap again
and it will hit Grampy right in the face.
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