The devil is with Kerry?

[cynatnite]

I wanted my mother to see the protesters in NYC and I called her. I was floored by her saying that 'the devil supports Kerry'.

I love my mother dearly, but I'm just flabbergasted. My hands are shaking I can barely type. I told her then I must be for the devil then.

I've kept my religious views away from my family because I know it would hurt them. I don't believe half of it, but I honestly can't believe she actually thinks this.

Cyn

[A_Possum]

1. That's how they hold onto the base

It wouldnt' have mattered who ran against Bush. The Devil supports his opponent.

Don't take it personally, it's just religious cultism. My sister is the same way.;(

[Bernardo de La Paz]

2. Don't get mad, get even. Ridicule the statement, not your mother of course

[GreenPartyVoter]

3. Not everyone believes

in "the devil"

Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/liberalchristians.htm

[Cha]

4. That's the meme Cyn...sorry you had to hear it from your

Mum.

They should be rottenly ashamed of trying to smear Kerry and his beautiful supporters like that.

But then again..I think they are all all a bunch of murdering hypocrites.

[The Hair in my Nose]

5. She's probably a Calvinist

sounds like something they would say.

[ezee]

6. I truly know how you fell

This divisive attitude of the GOP and the churches has separated so many of us from our families. What to do? One must follow there inner self.

[seabeyond]

7. i am in fundie land and declared last week

i will no longer call myself a christian, cause it places me in that group, and that isnt who i am. will just live in christ conscious without the label christian. they are retarding it so

[cynatnite]

8. That's pretty much how I feel, too.

I don't call myself that anymore because I think it's been so distorted. I'll never set foot in a church again if I can help.

I'm much calmer now than what I was so I'm recording the rest of the protest, taking my kids out for a couple of hours and when I come home, I'm making a music vid with grabs of this protest.

It's good to know I'm not the oddball I used to take myself for when I was growing up.

You guys rock! :yourock:

Cyn:)

[GreenPartyVoter]

9. interestingly enough, there are several articles online about how

evangelical conservatives are "winning" because their membership is going up whereas liberal church numbers are going down. But I think the trouble is with the way the conservatives count, which is by the number of backsides in pews. We liberal believers tend not to feel we _have_ to be at church, so I suspect there are a LOT of liberal (Christian and otherwise) believers out there who are not getting counted.

Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/liberalchristians.htm

[Sugarbleus]

32. Sorry Cyn ... I'm a reformed evangelical/fundie...

Been there done that. Carried the scars for awhile...all better now.

I no longer affiliate myself with that sort of spiritual program/cult...it supports politics/government like we see today and that is not my understanding of "Christ Consciousness".

I want to be part of the solution for today's world..not part of the problem.

You can't change a person's belief; you can only hold onto your own and do it nobly. You can love people for humanities sake while rejecting their philosophy.

I'm a granny now. My folks are gone; I miss them. They would be saying things like your mom if they were here. I am wiser, but not nearly wise enough. Still, at my age, I'd probably enjoy a little "go round" with some relgiopolitico types. :evilgrin:

Enjoy your life and be at Peace~~ SB

[Cha]

11. I feel for you all. It's turned me away from anything

religious. That's how strongly how feel about what they are doing to our Country. It's hard to remember there are http://www.LiberalsLikeChrist.org ..Real Christians!

[The Hair in my Nose]

14. WWJD thong

[KT2000]

10. Gore channeled Satan

at least that is what my winger dentist told me in the last election.

[Cha]

12. Nutzoids! I like what Kerry said about him wanting

to be on "God's side" at the Convention.

AND when Richard Gere said at an awards ceremony honoring him..

"One thing I've learned is never to trust anybody who thinks God is only on their side, ESPECIALLY, if he's the president(sic) of the United States!"

[snyder]

13. The Solution Is Simple

Put your mother in a rubber room until after the election. She's nuts.

[blondeatlast]

15. Nice.

:eyes:

[snyder]

33. The Truth Hurts

[buycitgo]

16. it's only atheists that are marching for Kerry today

you can reassure your mom on that point, at least

that's what no less an authority than Cokie Roberts said today

I heard her say it on This Week

[VolcanoJen]

17. Awwww Cyn!!

:-(

It always hurts to hear such garbage, but coming from your mother, it must have really stung.

:-(

Please, go back to watching the beautiful, peaceful march on C-SPAN! You'll feel better. :D

[theBoo]

18. Wow!

Hey, you are not alone. My family thinks that Kerry is a moron and a "lying sack of crap."

[bobbyboucher]

19. Yeah, whatev.

Of course they do.

[Sparkly]

20. That does sound over-the-top odd

I'm not being sarcastic here, but wonder quite seriously if she has a history of mental illness? Extreme thoughts about God and Satan sometimes go along with certain illnesses. (If not, please don't take offense -- none meant!)

If she's always been religious in this way, did she explain why she believes the "devil supports Kerry?" Or why she believes Bush* is godly? (It's an astonishing phenomenon to me that so many people believe he is, simply because he says so!)

[The Hair in my Nose]

21. Mine think

Hillary is the Anti-Christ !!!

They do not know what the hell to make of a son who supports Kucinich. My dad calls DK a closet fag.

So... Republican parents suck!

[Sparkly]

23. It seems to me it's Christ-like to work for the powerless, the poor,

the ill, the elderly, the children... I can't figure out how anybody could look at someone like Hillary Clinton (or name any Democrat, Zell excepted) and say they're the "anti-Christ," yet think Curious George is "Christian" when he cuts programs and institutes policies that HURT the powerless, the poor, the ill, the elderly, the children...

What on earth is wrong with such people?

[The Hair in my Nose]

24. My parents

tell me Jesus is for the unborn CRAP. They call pro-choice folks Baby Killers.

I tell 'em I'm for selective breeding for animals and humans. Just to get a rise out of them.

[arewenotdemo]

39. Is The Hair in my Nose

the Thorn in his parents' Backsides?

:bounce:

[The Hair in my Nose]

41. More like a pimple on their butts

... they refuse to believe Laura Bush was a prostitute!

[theBoo]

27. Hillary the anti-Christ!!????

Well, I've never heard that one before, but I have heard people say that when Bill was having his affairs it was just payback from when Hillary got in bed with the Devil.

[The Hair in my Nose]

29. Hillary in bed with the Devil???

Please explain. What was Gingrinch doing in her bed?

[autorank]

34. No, Scott Baio is the antichrist!

[renotyme]

22. the power of christ compels me...

to mention that the devil is not with kerry, but rather works in the white house office of kkkarl rove

[Zomby Woof]

25. Satan is cool

Even he thinks the Republicans are too fucking evil for words.

[blue neen]

26. She can't control what you believe, and you can't control

what she believes.

It just hurts to hear her say something like that when you are believing so passionately in the election of Kerry. I can't wait to vote! How about you, cyn?

Chin up! Relatives are confounding.

[autorank]

28. Families are overrated! This is not a genetic condition.

Try to lighten things up at the next family reunion with a few of these:

http://www.panicresearch.com/hello_satan

[cynatnite]

30. You guys are just freakin' Great!

I feel ten times better than what I did especially after reading all the great posts!

When I was a kid a friend of mine got me completely hooked on KISS. I just loved those guys and their music.

To this day my mother still thinks they worship satan :eyes: On my way home I remembered this so now that I think about it, what she said about Kerry isn't too far off base for her.

I told my 14 year old daughter what she said and she was shocked, too. Needless to say I feel completely reaffirmed that I'm not weird. LOL

I think I'll order a couple of t-shirts from somewhere to let people know how I feel without even opening my mouth.

I'm sure you guys have some great suggestions ;)

Cyn:)

[The Hair in my Nose]

31. Try this T-shirt... and get mom's reaction

[snyder]

37. Has Your Mother Tried Electroshock?

[greekspeak]

35. I have been hearing tripe like this from my family for years

I am not just exactly sure where God/Jesus/Holy Spirit registered Repulican. I would assume it is in Utah Branson, MO, or Crawford, TX. The Devil is probably registered in Cambridge Mass, D.C. or Las Vegas. I would like to see the voters card of all allegedly real paranormal beings...barring that, do you think we could get Gallup to poll them?

[faithnotgreed]

36. hi cynatnite - i havent been able to read everyones posts but heres my

thought:

if this works for you how about checking out john kerrys site and in the communities section, he has people of faith for kerry (or something like that) as one of the many communities on his site

it may be something youre interested in or it may be something after reading it that you would be able to share with your mom

i cant know of course but i feel its worth looking into. considering it was such a shock to you perhaps this could help, even if it gives her something to think about later on.

by the way, im most definitely a person of faith for kerry!

best wishes with whatever you choose and i sure am sorry she feels that way and how that must feel to you to hear that.

[Dob Bole]

38. LOL- I know the feeling!!!

I had to listen to my dad lecture me about Kerry and abortion last week, followed by the line about how Bush was going to win in a landslide.

I just said "ok."

And then I left.

BTW, not sure what your beliefs are, but here is some religous left to counter with- http://www.sojo.net

[jsw_81]

40. It's true!

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