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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:28 PM
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Need help debunking the "Muslim thing"
I have a co-worker who came to me this morning looking for facts to refute the "Obama is a Muslim" lie. Her son and his friend were at her house this weekend and shocked both her and her husband with their claims. The friend even claims to have "really researched this."

According to them, the Muslims have already "taken over France" and are now going to do the same by installing Obama as President, because he's really a Muslim. They are going to vote for McCain in order to "save" our country.

I have the Snopes link and I also have the link from barackobama.com disputing this lie. I'm looking for other hard factual evidence - since they've "done their research" they aren't going to accept it only on word.

(I've already pointed out that even if he was a Muslim, so what, it's the most peaceful religion on this planet - but that won't get through their ignorant prejudiced little brains)

Thanks! :hi:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:29 PM
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1. Give him this link:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:30 PM
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3. Nice! THANK YOU!
:D
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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:30 PM
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2. what research?
What are they giving as research? I am not too concerned about Obama's chances so you don't need to be either!
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:32 PM
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6. That was my first question.
Unfortunately I'm getting this from the mom, not directly from the son & friend. They of course didn't have anything with them, but they claim to be able to back all this up.

I just hate this kind of stupidity! GRRRRR.....
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:31 PM
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4. they can't be saved
they know he is not a Muslim..it is just easier to bitch about that than to deal with actual issues.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:31 PM
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5. Why waste your time
Look, if someone thinks 'the Muslims are taking over France' then reasoning with them is going to be a complete waste of time. Such statements tell us that the person is either terminally stupid or a troll who likes upsetting people such as yourself and your friend by making provocative statements which they know perfectly well to be bullshit.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:32 PM
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7. Only a knuckle sandwich will help.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:34 PM
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8. I hate to advocate violence
but have you considered hitting him over the head?
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:41 PM
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17. If I'd been there, trust me, he'd have some bruises today.
And I'm not a physical person. But this kind of b.s. would bring that out in me, I'm sure.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:35 PM
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9. Tell her to point out to her son and his friend that if it were true
The McCain campaign would be making a big issue of it. Why isn't McCain shouting it from the rooftops? This can only mean 2 things:

1. McCain knows that Obama is a secret Muslim who wants to impose Islamic law on the U.S. and is doing nothing about it.

2. McCain is unaware of what is so obvious to people like your co-worker's son and his friend, and is therefore incompetent to save the country.


It really is that simple.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:37 PM
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She's not up on politics so she didn't have many facts, but she did point that out.
They, of course, had no answer - just insisted that they have "facts."
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 03:03 PM
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19. Oooh. I like that
pair of responses.

They'll probably need to be repeated seven or eight times before the idiots who think he's a Muslim start to get it, but very good.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:36 PM
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10. Here's one way...
Educate them that Muslims don't eat pork.

Show them video of Barack ordering bacon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV7rRPLalGc

Hey, it's low-level, but it's true.

If you can find a recording of Michelle on "The View", she also talks about the Obamas liking their bacon for breakfast.

It's the little things...
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:37 PM
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13. Plus, here's Obama drinking an alcoholic beer.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:37 PM
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14. That's good actually!
And it's simple, so their pea-sized brains just might be able to handle it. Thanks!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:36 PM
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11. Baptised by one Jeremiah Wright. Perhaps they've heard of him?
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 03:04 PM
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20. Political fail.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:37 PM
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12. Ask them to explain this simple dichotomy:
If Obama is Muslim, why was there a stink over Pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright?

In other words, how can there be a scandal that he's a Muslim at the same time there's a scandal proving he's a Christian?

You don't even have to go into this specifics of Rev. Wright, in fact, don't bother their heads will explode.
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:38 PM
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15. i think--he understands the
Muslim community better than most people (because of his international experience). But to me this is only positive--how could it not be good to have better contacts and relationships with the Muslims in this (and other) countries? How well will Little Miss Fundie understand and relate to the Muslims? Has she any experience with real religions? You know the kind that don't involve bizarre stuff like snake handling.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:38 PM
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16. Laugh in their faces. Loudly. Ask 'em why they're suckers. Everytime they say something that stupid.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 02:53 PM
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18. So what if he were Muslim? There's no law against that.
What the hell is wrong with people?
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 03:34 PM
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22. I don't know.
Some days it seems so depressing that there's so much stupidity and hate in this world.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 03:06 PM
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21. Ask them 'How do I know you're not a Muslim?'
or, 'Are you racist against Muslim's?' - People hate to be called racists; even if they are one.
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