Speaking in tongues - see it for yourself

[Hugabear]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-1AVQLlJYE&feature=related

This might not be Palin's church, but this is the type of stuff they engage in.

[C_U_L8R]

1. If you're gonna speak in tongues, this looks a lot more fun :-)))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T880ah7clnA

[grantcart]

7. man I understood every syllable lol

[anigbrowl]

2. Why am I reminded of a daycare center?

[TooRaLoo]

11. LOLLLLLLLLLLL

[anigbrowl]

18. I'm actually serious. I'm deeply embarrassed for these people.

Go to a rock concert. Smoke some joints. Have better sex. Anything! Live a little. If this is anybody's idea of a hot spiritual experience I feel truly sad for them.

[TooRaLoo]

31. Trust me, I know you're serious. It's just that I can relate.

I was raised in churches like this. I never felt compelled to fall over or start crying. I never "got" it. Still don't.

[jberryhill]

35. The ROFL's around here lend a whole new meaning to "Slain In the Spirit" though, don't they....

The Shekinah Glory is getting brighter all of the time in these parts.

Can I have a "Hallelujah"?

[Radical Activist]

3. Do you have a link showing

that her church speaks in tongues? There's a lot of variation from church to church in the non-denominational crowd.

[Hugabear]

8. Actually, I do

http://wasillaag.org/index.php?s=au&nid=3734

<snip>
WE BELIEVE... The Initial Physical Evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is Speaking in Tongues, as experienced on the Day of Pentecost and referenced throughout Acts and the Epistles.
<snip>

[Radical Activist]

13. She's officially nuts.

That stuff isn't even in the Bible. When people spoke in tongues at Pentecost people from various nations understand what the other was saying. They didn't babble incoherently like fucking morons.

[jberryhill]

27. That's why the Evangelicals think Pentecostals are heretics

Believe it or not - this is a wedge issue for Evangelicals.

You are absolutely correct - At Pentecost, there were people who *understood* the prophesying in different languages.

From an Evangelical standpoint, "speaking in tongues" without an interpreter is un-Biblical. And what they don't say out loud, but do say among themselves is that it opens Pentecostals up to evil spirits and demonic possession.

[jberryhill]

26. Get yer red hot linky to Sarah Palin's church here...

http://wasillaag.org/index.php?s=au&nid=3734

WE BELIEVE... The Initial Physical Evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is Speaking in Tongues, as experienced on the Day of Pentecost and referenced throughout Acts and the Epistles.

[Raffi Ella]

4. .

[grantcart]

5. I knew I missed something at Seminary

[Cronus Protagonist]

6. They sound like a flock of turkeys anticipating Thanksgiving

lol :P

[JBoy]

9. They taught the kids at "Jesus Camp" how to do that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNLMuijRyU

Start watching at about 4:30 into the clip.

[anigbrowl]

16. Unbelievable. I am so going back to regular doses of LSD.

The more I see of these dominionists/pentecostals/etc. the more I realize they're just a giant psyops scam. No wonder Mrs browl is always telling me to start my own cult.

[Terry in Austin]

23. When people start speaking in tongues

...do they ever get into an argument?

:popcorn:

[JBoy]

25. You never hear any punctuation - it's all just run-on sentences.

[SPKrazy]

10. In all honesty

while I might not find this to be what I want, what difference does it make if it is what someone else wants in their life? We've got a diversity of religions and cultures in this country and to condemn someone because of a particular practice (despite how absurd it may seem to us) is not really a valid criticism or worth engaging in yanno?

This kind of religions abounds in this country and has the Catholic Church worried sick in Hispanic countries where it is overtaking and converting people like wildfire. So the appeal is not just to some strange bunch of ducks, but in fact to many people who find that speaking in tongues is a valid way of worship. It isn't for me, but who am I to condemn someone for how they worship?

[C_U_L8R]

12. When their bedrock beliefs demand that they have dominion over YOU

is when you might start being concerned. They consider themselves to be an army of god.

[Raffi Ella]

17. Thank you

It'd be one thing if this were a private matter, it's not.

[SPKrazy]

37. All well and good and I disagree with their dogma and core beliefs

but the poking fun of their practices is unnecessary and childish

[Zhade]

39. Nothing childish about sneering at FUCKED-UP beliefs.

It's a defense mechanism, so people never take such horseshit seriously.

[Not the Only One]

14. John Ashcroft believed in this, too

He was AofG. He was the most powerful pentecostal ever (closest to the Presidency via succession) in the US before Palin's selection (should Palin be elected in November). His Dad was a AofG pastor and the President of the AofG-affiliated Evangel University.

[Hugabear]

15. Yep, and he was a fucking nutbag. The war on pornography was more important than the war on terror.

Gotta love those fundies and their priorities :sarcasm:

[BadgerKid]

19. After looking at that and others

I don't believe this to be special to religion. I think you just have to allow your brain to disconnect from learned speech patterns and fire away. Kind of reminds me of "Whose Line Is It Anyway?"

[DangerousRhythm]

20. You got me excited that someone finally unearthed the video of my dreams!

:cry:

[RagAss]

21. I'd rather watch my dog take a shit...but thanks.

[demo dutch]

22. This woman is so on the fringe, how does this appeal to the Indies & Mods voters

[jberryhill]

28. Not even the Evangelicals like it

As noted upthread Evangelicals severely part ways with Pentecostals on this practice, and believe it is un-Biblical.

[demo dutch]

29. yeah but they rally around this Bristol baby thing that's all that matters to

them and now check this this out...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080902/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_palin_daughter

[jberryhill]

33. That's fine, and that's all good "pro family / pro life" stuff....

We're days ahead of the media's ability to sort out this whole ball of weird. Evangelicals and Pentecostals agree on many things. But I don't think her status as a babbling Pentecostal has gotten anywhere near the popular mindset funnel yet.

Evangelicals agree with Muslim pro-lifers too, but there's only so far they are going to walk on that common ground together.

[jberryhill]

24. Not "type of stuff" - THE STUFF HER SPECIFIC CHURCH REQUIRES

Wasilla Assembly O' God (some assembly required)

What we believe:

http://wasillaag.org/index.php?s=au&nid=3734

WE BELIEVE... The Initial Physical Evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is Speaking in Tongues, as experienced on the Day of Pentecost and referenced throughout Acts and the Epistles.


For those not familiar with species of right wing Christians - this stuff makes the Evangelicals uncomfortable, and many Evangelicals consider it to be a heretical practice.

Right wing Christians are not monolithic and while Evangelicals tolerate Pentecostals up to a point, and are part of the political coalition, Evangelicals regard Pentecostals with a certain degree of mistrust and disdain.

[TheDoorbellRang]

30. I'm surprised she doesn't have "speaking in tongues" on her foreign policy resume

:rofl:

[Hugabear]

32. No shit. She could speak in any language she wants to.

No need for Rosetta Stone, or any other language learning tool. Just rely on the Holy Ghost to make you speak in tongues!

[PM7nj]

34. My grandmother does that...

...I love my grandmother, but she is freaking crazy. Speaks in tongues, "heals" people, believes the end of the world is coming, etc.

[Vinca]

36. Near the end of his life, my father went to one of those churches.

I went with him once out of curiosity and it was the weirdest thing I've ever seen. I was surprised they didn't break out the snakes.

[Fox Mulder]

38. What a bunch of lunatics.