A reliable source told me today . . .

[TomClash]

In St. Paul the Repukes are openly discussing fixing the election, as well as voter fraud - code for stopping minorities from voting.

The source is a Dem who's there.

[yardwork]

1. Why not? They did it the last two presidential elections.

and this time it truly is their only hope.

[roguevalley]

21. somehow, I don't see Obama taking it.

[dailykoff]

2. "Bradley effect"

is the code word. Heard something earlier.

[liberalmuse]

3. Then they are proposing treason.

Gitmo! I hope everyone here ensures they are properly registered. I think the 'pubs will try their usual shenanigans, but on a much larger scale in black, brown and known Democratic-leaning communities across the country.

[Orsino]

7. They know they can get away with it.

That's proven. Not even a Democratic majority imperils their worst plans.

[workinclasszero]

64. Well what the hell their VP pick is a secessionist traitor so... (nt)

[MaryEllen9399]

4. I have a feeling

that voter turnout is going to be huge and that fixing the election is not going to work this time.

[yardwork]

31. I really hope that you're right - we have to make sure that you are right!

And welcome to DU!

[Samantha]

59. I think they can make it work regardless of the margins

If a county in Florida in 2000 could take a +16,000 and instantly turn it into a -16,000, a net 32,000 difference, makes one wonder what software engineers can do eight years later, should the need exist.

Sam

[Matariki]

58. Yeah, but how do we PROVE who a huge turnout voted for?

what if the vote is simply inversed?

[Kdillard]

5. I really want these people exposed.

[Name removed]

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[A-Schwarzenegger]

29. you might want to actually change or delete that

[Motown_Johnny]

6. Someone should invest in a small recording device with lots of memory

[Cha]

48. There ya go..do something to stop

them like getting it on TAPE!!

[Kdillard]

8. Is there any way your friend can get a tape recorder in there?

[tbyg52]

10. A lot of MP3 players record sound

They also sell very small recorders with solid state memory. Are they doing patdowns on the way in?

[TomClash]

14. No, he would be fired nt

[yourguide]

28. Not for a $100 digital voice recorder spy pen

http://www.thespystore.com/digitalvoicerecorders.htm

[krawhitham]

36. He would get a new job

they will be lining up to hire him if he gets it recorded

[TomClash]

38. No, it's pretty complicated

He'd lose a lot of income.

[Zhade]

55. So a job is worth more than democracy?

NT!

[Middle finga]

9. We are not going to sit back and allow it to happen this time

if they try it this time, they better get the riot gear ready.

[TomClash]

16. That's what my source said

Stop people from voting and they will riot.

[pleah]

11. I have been saying all along that the only way they will win this election

is to steal it. Not surprised.

I want to know how we can stop them.

[TomClash]

18. It's up to the nominee

If he wants to win "by any means necessary" and I think he does - we fight and then if we lose we refuse to acknowledge their victory - THAT is what they are afraid of.

[pleah]

34. I really hope you are right. n/t

[TomClash]

37. Think about it

Barack is a former community organizer - we're taking it to the streets if this gets funky.

[pleah]

42. I'll gladly join in, I can't take 4 more years of this evil.

[TomClash]

44. No one can

Pick almost any issue and I hate their position on it.

[The Backlash Cometh]

12. And you doubt they will try?

[TomClash]

13. This is a mainstream source and I'm shocked they are so brazen and open about it nt

[The Backlash Cometh]

23. Oh. That's worth mentioning, then.

:-)

[TomClash]

45. I mean she is not sitting in the cheap seats nt

[TomClash]

46. I mean she is not sitting in the cheap seats nt

[quantass]

15. A source was NEEDED? I could have told you that

[Name removed]

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[Danger Mouse]

17. That's why we need to fight these tricks on a local level and GET OUT THE VOTE.

They can't fix an election if we have massive voter turnout.

[TomClash]

20. This is the most important part of any election nt

[Danger Mouse]

22. Especially this one. They can't steal if voter turnout for Obama is MASSIVE.

they could only steal in 2000 and 2004 because of close elections.

[KittyWampus]

24. I wonder if Democratic circles in DC talk about this problem

[TomClash]

26. Yes, no doubt

The DNC knows about this.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

27. You just posted bullshit that has less than zero value. Trying to discredit DU?

There's suddenly a lot of this bullshit this evening. DU has been discovered.

And before you flaunt your 1000+ post count, why the hell are you contributing to the troll influx bullshit?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

32. It's not bullshit.

It's goatshit. And that's from a reliable source who's here.

[TomClash]

41. Because it is true nt

[CitizenPatriot]

30. yes...Obama campaign is VERY aware of this

As are many other groups who are fighting like hell to make sure Diebold doesn't vote switch, voters aren't disenfranchised....etc.

go to VIDEO THE VOTE.org and be prepared to cover fraud in your district
sign up to request paper ballots
have lawyers you know volunteer to be on call election night and the next day

They always steal the vote. But this is common knowledge now and if they try it this year, believe me, they have a thing or two coming their way.

get your riot gear ready, though-- because I truly think Bushie might call off the election with his we're in permanent war statement and last years I'm the King if we're at war and there won't be any elections if we're in a state of emergency statement. I seriously worry that they have the stupidity to underestimate the people this year and try more of the same. The people will NOT stand for it this year. There will be no controlling the movement of the people and they will never regain control again if they are so stupidly obvious. their best bet would be to give it up this year and try again when we're all complacent again.

However, they've not proven themselves to be any good at knowing when to quit so far.

[CitizenPatriot]

33. p.s. to add

we can't do anything about diebold this year-- it's too late. and they are and have worked with the GOP. Their machines can be rebooted from the outside with a pen drive. Go figure what that means.

Here in Georgia, REpublican security expert Spoonamore found a vote switching device on two machines that were turned in by a watchful aid in the SOS office.

Yeah, they're crooks.

[1Hippiechick]

35. Go to www.blackboxvoting.org- they have a 58-page online booklet - what YOU can do

[sniffa]

40. I'm not sure if that site is welcome here

[1Hippiechick]

53. Why?

[Zhade]

56. Because She Who Will Not Be Named helped get Andy Stephenson KILLED.

NT!

[1Hippiechick]

57. Pancreatic cancer? n/t

[WeDidIt]

43. I ain't going to no blackboxbullshit site

The woman who runs that shit is WHACKO!

[1Hippiechick]

54. And what about the reports from each state?

[cwydro]

39. ...

:tinfoilhat:

[RepublicanElephant]

47. beware of polls that show obama and mccain in a "statistical dead-heat"....

...bull.

[NorthCarolina]

49. Is there anyone out there who DIDN'T think this has always been their plan?

The last two elections has shown us that the GOP is quite competent in stealing elections. I find it disheartening that Democrats have not done much, if anything, on correcting voting "deficiencies" in the US since coming into power in 06.

[Cha]

50. Thanks for reporting this

Tom, inspite of the guff you have to take. Like it was posted.."why not that's how they got the last two elections".

But, this is interesting because they obviously think they're among thieves and don't mind making themselves feel better by knowing the only way they're going to win is steal it.

There's no way you could give us more info and we need to constantly be aware of this as I'm sure Team Obama is.

[TomClash]

51. They have already been told

It's not the first report.

[gateley]

52. Did your source take this information to people who could actually do

something about it?

[TomClash]

63. I hope so

If you only knew how unintentionally ironic your statement is. :)

[gateley]

65. Yeah - I realized that after I typed it. :-D nt

[farmboxer]

60. Republican manufactured and programmed voting machines

have won the last two elections.

[Carolina]

61. and that's why I'm pissed at the Dem Congress

since the criminal GOP has gotten away with their crimes of the past, why not continue them ad infinitum. We know they stole 2 national elections 2000 and 2004, possibly (likely) the 2002 misterms as well? If they got away with it 3 times, why not continue?

Thanks, Pelosi -- impeachment is off the table!

[insightclopedic]

62. It will be too hard to steal

Because Obama's lead is too immense for voting machines to alter the results without we the people finding out and fighting to get our country back.