david shuster comment there are no Gore voters out there who are now votin

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david shuster comment on blog titled Campaign money
August 27, 2004 | 4:05 p.m. ET

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The Bush pollsters acknowledge there are no Gore voters out there who are now voting for Bush. So, the Bush campaign is focused on recruiting "new voters" or conservatives who stayed home in 2000. <snip>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5445086

[PROGRESSIVE1]

1. Meaning that the mediawhores have concede that....

Bush is not winning over Democrats.

[HFishbine]

17. Not exactly

The original assertion that Bush is not winning over Gore voters is more accurate. Current polls show about 15% of Democrats favoring Bush -- about the same percentage of Dems who voted for him in 2000.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. Well this means that bush will lose.

[Star]

3. Timmy Russert just said

"All of our polling models are based on demographics of the 2000 election"

So, what happens if massive numbers of voters come out this year who didn't vote in 2000? IMO, THAT'S why Kerry's numbers are not higher right now. There's no way to factor in the numbers of voters who will vote for Kerry this year that didn't go to the polls in 2000.

[jezebel]

5. Like me. It's embarrassing to admit, but I didn't vote in 2000.

I wanted Gore to win, but live in Georgia and knew my vote wouldn't matter, so just didn't vote.
I don't care if my vote in this Republican state doesn't matter. I couldn't live with myself if I didn't vote this year. I suspect there are alot of people like me out there.

[fujiyama]

8. Great to hear that!

Welcome to DU :toast:

[senseandsensibility]

9. Remember, it

could matter, because we want Kerry to get a majority of all the votes nationally, not just win the electoral college. Glad you're voting this time, (I went through an apathetic phase a few years ago, so I know what that's like)! Try to get some other like-minded Georgians to go with you!

[Feanorcurufinwe]

11. Similarly

I voted for Nader, even though I thought Gore was the better man for the job, because I figured in Montana it didn't matter, and I wanted the Greens to get 5% nationally. Of course they didn't come close (although they did get 5.9% here). I'll never again throw away my vote in the belief that it doesn't matter.

[Cheswick2.0]

15. Jezebel your vote always matters

How about the rest of the ticket? Weren't there any democrats running in your district? How about congress, state senate and judges?
In addition, even if you live somewhere that is very republican and democrats never win, your vote still matters. If I am a democrat who is considering running for office in your district, I need to know that democrats at the very least will show up at the polls, so that I know if it is even worth the effort.

[Jezabell]

19. Cool, I didn't vote in 2000 either.

I also live in Georgia. And I'm definitely voting this year.

BTW, love your nic!

Kerry/Edwards 2004

[SoFlaJet]

6. I heard in Florida

that there are over 1 million new voters since 00 I am predicting a blowout victory for Kerry

[Star]

10. Soooooo glad to hear that

I'm in SoCal, and I know lots of dems are registering to vote.

I do believe the number of people voting this year will blow everyone away. Just hope BBV doesn't win the election for the pretender*.

[Eurobabe]

16. BWAHHAAAH!!!

That paradigm is no longer valid. Get over it Potatoe Head (e for Quayle)

[Davis_X_Machina]

4. Every year...

...the country is less white, less straight, less native-born, less 2.1-kids and a dog, than the year before.

Ruy Teixeira figured out that if Bush matches his share of the white vote as in 2000, and does not increase his share of the minority vote, he'll lose by sligtly more than 4 million votes.

And there's little evidence of such increases.

The tide is going out on the GOP, the nation that elected Reagan twice is dying out.

[DemBones DemBones]

12. I hope you're correct about this. An end to the worst

of the GOP (the Reagan and Bush people) would be welcomed enthusiatically by this straight, white, native-born, dog owner.

[wildeyed]

7. So if there are no Gore voters out there who are voting for Bush

and we all know Bush voters who will be voting for Kerry and Gore won the popular vote in 2000, then how can Bush and Kerry be 'tied' or Bush slightly ahead. Doesn't add up.

So many new voters out there. I have been registering dems since June. I am calling now to check and make sure they got registration cards, etc. Everyone seems very focused, says yes, I will be there on Nov 2, wouldn't miss it for anything. :)

[ItsMyParty]

13. wildeyed--you just pointed out a mouthful

and it's why everyone has to wake up before we end up stunned (like 2002 stunned) come November. I've seen posts like this before naming number of people that say they are not running into even one person who voted for Gore who is switching, etc. Unfortunately that is as stupid as the "I don't believe the polls because no one ever called me" complaints. It's just dumb. There are Gore voters who are caught up in this "terrorism/Iraq war/keep us from dying in our beds" crap who are going to vote for Bush. There are Bush voters who cannot stand him and either are going to vote Kerry or just not vote. But people who invision some grand blow out by Kerry or the business of how we are just walking all over the electoral vote (you have to win the state to get the ev!) are just not dealing with reality. This is a barroom brawl to the finish line.

[wildeyed]

14. I have considered the fact that my indy and repub friends

are probably more moderate and definitely younger than the average Bush voter, so that may be contributing to my perception of a mass exodus from the repubs in Nov. But now even Bush's pollsters are commenting that their are more of their guys coming over to our side than vice-versa.

I believe it will be close right down to the wire, especially in my state NC. If it isn't actually close, the pugs will attempt to cheat. Hell, they are already suppressing black voters in FL. So my plan, ground war. Sign 'em up and turn 'em out on Nov 2. Even if pugs cheat, have so many dem voters turn out that we can't be denied.

[July]

18. I agree we need to GOTV, but I'm still concerned.

Does it really matter how many Kerry voters we get out if we can't know whether the vote we cast went to our candidate? I don't see how we get around the brazen cheating scenario. They're desperate, and that's their last card.

Is anyone, anywhere, coming up with a plan to challenge an outcome that appears rigged, or to get a sense of whether the vote totals match the voters' leanings? What happens if they try to steal it? What recourse will we have?

[wildeyed]

20. I am voting absentee and encouraging all my friends

to do the same. Paper ballots, just in case, plus if I die b'f election day, I can leave this world knowing I voted for John Kerry and my time on earth was not totally wasted.

I know Kerry has 5 legal teams already set up to challenge any disputed totals. After what the Supreme Court did last time, who knows if that is actually productive, but at least we will have folks on the ground and ready to roll.

I have heard that MM will have camera crews at all FL polling stations, so if there is voter intimidation, it will be on camera. Hopefully won't be too late to do something about it.

There is something about outside entity overseeing the election results, but I don't know exactly where that is right now.

There are lots of folks on DU who are very knowledgeable about this issue. Probably if you ask in GD: campaign 2004, you could get a better answer.