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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:39 PM
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Poll question: Do you think Kerry's poll numbers would be higher if
he spoke out against the war? As of now, he's playing the Bush-lite card.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:40 PM
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1. It's Kind Of Late Now- He Boxed Himself In.... Too Bad...
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:41 PM
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2. F-Bush Lite. We don't like Bush Heavy. No Bush Lite.
And if there really is any such thing as an undecided voter at this point in time, I'd be surprised if he, or she, would actually decide to go to the polls.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:49 PM
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3. I'd be curious if anyone could present any evidence...
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 07:50 PM by vi5
Seriously, which voters would he be getting if he were against the war that he's not already getting, and what evidence is there that he wouldn't lose any voters he's currently getting, if he had been outspoken on the war? That is the only way that him being anti war would have gotten him any more votes than he currently has in polls.

This country was more or less evenly split on the war, like it has been almost any issue. There are dems/libs who supported the war who were/are going to vote for Kerry and would never vote for bush, and there are repubs/conservatives who were against the war who are still going to vote for bush and would never vote for Kerry.

Like anything else, this country is so split down the middle on every issue that no one particular stance on any one issue, no matter how important is going to change the balance at all.

I was against the war, but this whole line of reasoning strikes me as disingenuous speculation.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:52 PM
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4. Not the war so much
but he seems to be getting (and taking) the kind of awful advice that sank Gore, afraid to come out swinging and really take on those bastards in the Bush junta.

He showed the most promise last fall when he dumped his DLC handlers and hired some of Teddy Kennedy's guys. He dropped out of the circular firing squad, got on message, and took off in the polls. Perhaps it's time to do a similar housecleaning now, as it seems some of those DLC stooges seem to have slithered their way back in.

The last thing he needs are a bunch of little old ladies in pants telling him to hold back because he might seem like a mean ole bully picking on a nice li'l feller. Most of us have had 4 years to realize Bush's "aw shucks" act is just that. Kerry needn't bother trying to make nice. We won't be impressed.

We will be impressed if he goes on full attack, hitting Bush where he is most vulnerable, which seems to be nearly everyplace.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 08:08 PM
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7. Hasn't Kerry had the same advisers for months?
I don't think anyone dumped during the early campaign has been brought back. In fact, he brought on some totally new people for the stretch run.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 07:55 PM
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5. I don't think he would have gotten the nomination if he had.
So the question is academic. Our country went down the low road long ago, and anybody who seriously bucks the imperialistic superpower will be marginalized. Look what happened to Dean and Clark.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 08:04 PM
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6. No, they'd be lower
The vast majority of people in this country were in favor of going to war. If it was popular to speak out against the war then why isn't Dennis Kucinich our candidate?
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