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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:00 PM
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Impressions on Chimpy in Wheeling, West Virginia on CSPAN
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 09:07 PM by zulchzulu
Bad country western song with lyrics like "I don't need college" to whooping hollers. Then comes on Chimpy and the crowd goes nuts. A Democrat introduces the President to confused boos. The guy says something about his brothers in unions to more confused boos.

Rick Casini (I'm watching this on the web) goes into some confusing thing about steel union contracts. Of course, no mention that the steel industry has to buy imported Chinese steel.

Something about tax cuts for the entire West Virginia population. The guy introduces him as the "man of steel". Wow. Imaginative.

Bush goes into a fake-Texas accent. His schtick is predictable smoky-room KKK meetin' politics.

The crowd screams "USA! USA! USA!" after some Chimpy jingoistic throwaway line. And fishin'n' huntin'. Not bad for a guy from blueblood New England.

He wavers a tad on his fake Southern accent. He does say "hundered" instead of hundred. He then goes into his classic fuckhead laugh with the hunting thing into "hunting for votes". Then his laugh. Must turn channel......no...no....

He mentions "Hollywood", an old standby to get boos from rednecks who probably just had gone to the mall to see a film they loved that was made in Hollywood.

He talks about Laura and how she's gonna write the speech. Make it good, honey.

Bush continues with how Cheney "was not chosen for his pretty face"...still in a fake southern accent.

I get bored. Sorry. Bush is very boring and it is tedious hearing him go through a speech he didn't write.

My attention comes back when he scampers through his healthcare issues and the crowd cheers without having any idea what he is talking about.

He goes on about farmers and workers and child credits and the marriage penalty. He gets a big hoot when he says he wants to encourage marriage, not hinder it.

On and on he goes. They cheer. He lies. They cheer. No protestors. After signing the agreement that they would suck Chimpy's tiny penis if asked, they made it in the hall. Suckers.

All I can say is how can people be SO STUPID.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:34 PM
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1. Great Question.
My favorite sign from the protest today was "Let's Evolve Already!"

I got a laugh from your review. My stomach simply can't bear to watch that simpleton do his act. To see working class joes fall for the lies is equally disgusting.

WTF do they want? To bring back a fkkingg monarchy or something??

:wtf:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:41 PM
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2. Puritanical Rule is what they want. n/t
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dddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:41 PM
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3. stale crap
the few times I've heard this dope speak (to like-minded dopes) he brings up the "hollywood heart & soul of America" thing and then finishes with "I believe the heart and soul of America is _______ (whatever city he's in today)" I keep watching because I'm almost positive he'll say the wrong place one day. Then he talks about Cheney's looks, and how awesome Laura is. I think he's been told to stick to the script, so he won't get himself in trouble. I can't wait for the debates!

BTW - off topic, but - this is my very first post! I love this site.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:54 PM
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4. welcome to DU, dddem
hope you stick around
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whalerider55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:18 PM
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6. welcome, homegurl
welcome, dddem, from a poster from the eastern part of MA.

stick around, the fun is jes' beginnin'

whalerider55
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:41 PM
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12. Do a thousand posts tonight!
OK...maybe not.

Welcome to the Land O' Sanity, DU.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:07 PM
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19. Hi dddem!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:15 PM
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5. The Steelworkers for Bush is a (total fraud), although there may be
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 10:17 PM by doc03
a lot of steelworkers that will vote for Bush. Neither the United Steelworkers of America (USWA) or the Independent Steelworkers Union (ISU) support Bush. All union members don't vote Democrat just like all southerners don't vote Republican.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:21 PM
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7. Thanks for the review
I can't stand to watch him either, but I did enjoy your spin! :D
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:21 PM
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8. Thanks for venturing in
And for your unforgettable sense of things.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:54 PM
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14. Wha that wuz the nacest thang I er' heared taday
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 10:56 PM by zulchzulu
Kidding...

If this wasn't so entertaining to watch and witness a corrupt politician play a roomful of completely uniformed mass of otherwise nice people from a socio-economic politically brainwashed standpoint, it would be an utter tragedy.

Why do I torture myself watching Chimpy talk to The Ever Faithful Clueless?

Dang.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:25 PM
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9. He always has a blue shirt with the sleaves rolled up, then leans
on the podeum and says "I will defend Amearika every time" I guess the idiot thinks blue collor workers always wear blue shirts. How about the song at the end about being a little rough around the edges and not being out of GQ magazine, give me a fucking break.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:40 PM
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11. Gawd dang they be stooopid
WTF?

These people are hopeless. No shortage of twits.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:31 PM
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10. Funny thing I noticed was when he said (again) that the rich dodge taxes
...and the middle class has to pay them. Which is of course a true statement in and of itself. But he was using it to try to slam Kerry, when in reality, anybody with a BRAIN would be asking the question.... "well, Mr pResident, if by your own admission the rich do not pay taxes, then WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU GIVING THEM REFUNDS OF TAXES THEY NEVER FUCKING PAID!!!"
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 10:48 PM
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13. There is a NEW BUSHISM!
Somewhere in the speech near the end, Chimpy is tawkin' 'bout trade and 'dem chaa neeze. He sez we'z goinna have mo' jobs 'n people can get an A..sociates dee gree if they wanna.

Then he says some gibberish and says:

"...the Japaneses"... pronounced the "Japan Knee Zes". I'm guessin' that mus' be the plurality of one Japanese...people....person.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:49 AM
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15. It looked like a cross between "Deliverance" and "Triumph of the Will"
Most of those people are probably dirt poor and in dire need of health care (not to mention education) yet they will line up for Bush by the thousands because they're afraid of gay marriage and they think they might get a tiny tax cut in his second term. Gotta love those brilliant red state Murkins!
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:47 AM
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18. jsw_81 Wrong! They are Republicans
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 11:49 AM by doc03
Just the opposite you got your Doctors, Business owners, management people and of course your religious zealots. The people you just ignorantly insulted are your Democrats. It sounds like you should have attended the Bush rally! Thanks for insulting a state full of good hard working people that up until 2000 voted Democrat!
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 01:28 AM
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16. I only saw a little of it (clicking past it),
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 01:30 AM by berry
so I appreciated your take on it. But what bothered me was the HUGE hall they were in, and it was packed with people. Usually, it seems as if the crowds are smaller or, at least, the camera doesn't pan over the people so I assume there aren't masses of people. Or he gets a captive audience at some military base. But this was really big.

So then I remembered hearing about the *Bush campaign in 2000 bring in busloads of loyalists for rallies. And I wondered. Would these be new people? who hadn't been to a *Bush speech before? or was the hall "packed"? What I find hard to believe is that they just put an ad in the paper and that many people just appeared. Well, I KNOW they don't do that.

I also caught a moment at the end where *Bush is gladhanding the crowd. It gave me a sick feeling. Think cult.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:37 AM
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17. Croud estimated at 8000-10000. We got news of * coming last weekend
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 11:56 AM by doc03
they started giving out tickets Wednesday and as of Friday there were
still some available. When Kerry was here a few weeks ago we had 17000 people on the waterfront next door.
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:55 PM
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20. Thanks for the heartening perspective!
I've got to stop freaking over evidence that *Bush has any support at all. And you were right in your previous post about the sorts of people he attracts.

And incidentally, I've wondered (without knowing anything about it, really) if there might have been some vote-tampering in WV and some other states, as well as FL, in 2000. I got a really bad feeling about Teresa LePore in Palm Beach--supposedly a Democrat but, in her position as county election supervisor, doing terrible damage without showing a bit of real distress about it. And then I wondered if there had been a plan to plant people in such positions, and even get some of them to call themselves "Democrats," and just quietly subvert elections all over the country. I know it's paranoid to wonder, but it's hard not to. It was hard to see WV and TN go to *Bush in 2000.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 08:00 PM
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21. Here's a link to an editorial in the Wheeling paper that will
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 08:06 PM by doc03
give you an idea of Kerrys chances in WV.
http://news-register.net/edit/story/0830202004_edt01.asp
It's going to be a uphill battle here, President Clinton did a lot of damage here with his free trade policies and failure to live up to the promises he made to the steelworkers. If you heard the introduction the steelworker made for Bush*, he was telling the truth.
Those tariffs saved my job too.
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 02:05 PM
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22. I'm certainly glad your job is safe
But this editorial really tells me only that the newspaper is determined to be a Bush-booster. It's sheer propaganda. It might be true that *Bush saved some jobs in the mining and steel industries, but every other claim it makes for *Bush is false. (It also lies about and misrepresents Kerry.)

Oh, and blaming Clinton for "his" free trade policies would be OK with me if you would also recognize that this has been and is the position of the GOP too. In fact, Clinton betrayed a lot of Democrats in going with NAFTA, etc. With that move, he was moving toward the GOP position (a la the DLC's "triangulation" trick). So *Bush, the uber-Republican, doesn't support free trade? His position on steel was an exception to the rule--done to get votes. Well, OK. If that is one's only issue, and one doesn't worry that he will do a reverse when he doesn't have to care about votes, then one might vote for *Bush. Meanwhile, the rest of the country, the economy, everything is going down the toilet.

Oh, and also, how do you reckon that that editorial will tell me anything about what the people of WV think? It's in what I assume is a right-wing paper. I guess I have to trust that the people will see through the BS and vote Kerry. But we shall see.
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