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veteran_for_peace Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:54 PM
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Attack Bush on National Security
I think that we should take a page from the Republicans play book and attack the President on National Security. Point out that we are not safer since 9/11. Point out how even president says that we can't win this war. Pound that point home!!!
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:56 PM
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1. Missteps at FBI (Sibel Edmonds, Colleen Rowley)
Decision to attack Iraq before finishing the job on Al Qaeda.

etc.

etc.

etc.


etc.
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:57 PM
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2. because Bush is too WIMPY to win this war
he's a wimp

a whiny, priviledged, uncaring, incurious, WIMP

W - War without end
I - Iraq invsion for oil
M - Misuse of military
P - Pointy head

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 12:59 PM
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3. We'd lose the election in a landslide
Surely you know that, so why propose it?


Lick Laura's Bush - Drop Bush Not Bombs! - FUCK BUSH
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TheRovingGourmet Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 01:03 PM
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4. Ouch!
I haven't been around long enough to make a statement like that. :)

It would be a mistake to take this approach.
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veteran_for_peace Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 01:03 PM
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5. Why do you say that?
If we take out Bush's last strength then he will have nothing to run on. If you make Bush look vulnerable on National Security and the war on terrorism then you can win this election. Because Kerry will win on the economy, health care, and the environment. Take the battle to them. Define bush as the loser in chief
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 02:11 PM
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6. I agree about taking Bush;'s "strength" out
Sorry I wasn't clear in my earlier post - I was on the phone when I posted that brief comment. If there's any bashing to be done, Kerry needs to stay above the fray. Bashing, in politics, is done by losers who have everything to gain and little to lose, like Bush.

However the way to do it is the way Kerry's already doing it. Kerry offers a stronger America. A more powerful America. An America that has the true support of the world. An America we used to have.

Note that he's not bashing Bush, which Bush would use to his advantage like he has many times in the past. He's letting Clarke, Edwards and others do the bashing for him, which is the way to go.

Here's what the thread starter said, "Point out that we are not safer since 9/11".

If Kerry says we're not safer since 9/11, he'll get trounced when Bush points to the new Department of Homeland Security, the PATRIOT act, the Taliban falling, the routing of Al Quaida in Afghanistan, the improved security at airports, the pre-emtive anti-terror arrests and prisoners in Gitmo, etc... he'll get to showcase his record and prove Kerry to be a liar, or at least he'll make it appear so.

Of course we're safer, we're just not safe enough.

And to remind the public that they are not safer is to keep them fearful, which is exactly what Bush's plan involves... the public need to be afraid because the more afraid they are, the more likely they are to keep Bush.

Frightening the public isn't to Kerry's advantage: making them feel like he would keep them safe(r) is the way to go, and he'll do that with a "stronger America", not with "Bush is weak and we're not any safer" - that just sounds like someone whining because they're not the president.

"Point out how even president says that we can't win this war ," - and since Kerry supported and the entire Congress voted to give Bush the discretion to go to war at his own choice in order to "fight terror", how much of a chump does that make Kerry out to be?

If Kerry mentions Bush's admission that the war on terror is unwinnable, Kerry needs to come out and say NO, Bush is WRONG, there IS a way to win, and here's how we can do it:

1/ Reaffirm the Geneva Conventions
2/ Release prisoners at Gitmo who are not a threat
3/ Support the investigation of Abu Ghraib and bring the force of law to all people who violated the Geneva Conventions
4/ Gain the trust and respect of our allies and other UN countries instead of dissing them and going it alone
5/ Address the root cause of people's discontent with America and make it good again

... and so on... this way, Kerry gets to speak positively and Bush gets to whine and play dirty.

Swiftboat Veterans for Bush - TRUTH!!!

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