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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:40 PM
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2 Vets Say SBVT Illegally Used Their Names & Lied–READ!!
Two vets say Swift Boat group misrepresents them.
Both say they are for Kerry but SBVT web site illegally shows they are against Kerry.

Updated August 30, 2004
http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-318270.php
Cross Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-08-23-bush-ads_x.htm * By Andrea Stone, USA Today

Two of John Kerry’s fellow swift boat commanders in Vietnam said Monday that they have been misrepresented by a group of veterans and supporters of President Bush who have attacked Kerry’s war record. The men say they have tried unsuccessfully for two weeks to get the group to change its Web site to reflect their support for Kerry.

On the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth website a picture showing two men, Rich McCann and Rich Baker and states that they don’t support John Kerry for President. But McCann, 60, a consultant from Chagrin Falls, Ohio, says it is not true. “If the question is whether John Kerry is fit to be commander in chief, my answer is absolutely.” The second veteran, Rich Baker, 61, says he was never contacted by the group. “Kerry is very well fit for command,” he said. “He was one of the most courageous and aggressive swift boat captains in the division.”

Both men say they voted for Bush in 2000 but won’t again. Neither accompanied Kerry on the missions that led to his two awards for valor and three Purple Hearts for injuries. Both said the men criticizing Kerry could have spoken up 35 years ago. Officers usually debriefed one another after missions before one of them, usually the senior tactical officer, wrote the official after-action report, they said.

The group’s claim that Kerry made up reports of enemy fire during a March 1969 mission when Kerry pulled a Green Beret from a river and won the Bronze Star doesn’t make sense to McCann and Baker. “The other officers would have had the opportunity to say at the debriefing, ‘No, John, we weren’t under fire,’ “ Baker said.

Jim Russell, 60, of Telluride, Colo., was an eyewitness on a boat behind Kerry’s. In a conference call he said accusers “couldn’t have seen if he was under fire” because Kerry’s boat was in an ambush zone farther down the river.

McCann said that he had admired many of the Swift Boat Veterans group’s members for 35 years. But their actions now are “suddenly breaking the bonds of our brotherhood,” he said. McCann said he told Hoffmann a month and a half ago that he wanted nothing to do with his group.

He said he sent a letter to the group two weeks ago demanding that it change its Web site. Hoffmann said Monday he would not do so until he heard “directly” from McCann. “I’ve got to get it from him, not from some newspaper,” he told a reporter.


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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:43 PM
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1. That is so awesome
Thanks for posting that. Let's BLAST it to the media!!!!!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:44 PM
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2. Somebody needs to send this out by the media blaster or
something because it seems like the networks never seem to notice this stuff anymore.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:46 PM
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3. It's a week old, dead.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 09:00 PM
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9. Where'd the media blaster go?
:shrug:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 09:20 PM
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11. Good question. I was looking for it earlier today and couldn't find it
and couldn't remember where it was to begin with but I thought it was just me.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:49 PM
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4. Bush and Rove are doing such a great job
turning brother against brother. Vet against Vet.

These Vets didn't decide to band together on their own to attack Kerry. They were brought together and told lies, in order to get their cooperation. They were tantalized by fame and recognition. Some were just lonely old guys, who one day out of nowhere got a call from their Admiral, wow, who was suddenly very interested in their stories. Many of these guys were easy marks.

Bu$h and Rove are using and abusing these Vets. And when the election is over, no one will even remember their names. No less care about them anymore. You can bet, they won't be hearing from the 'Admiral', that's for sure.


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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:50 PM
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5. This came out last week.
The Smearboat Vets have already changed their website to show the 2 of them supporting Kerry.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:55 PM
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7. Uh huh. On whatever is left of that website. eom
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 05:54 PM
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6. Paging MoveOn...
Now THOSE TWO would make a GREAT ad!
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 08:54 PM
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8. The only thing that will get this in the media fast is a big lawsuit
Our side seems to hesitate and taking bold action. The right wing would have filed about 40 lawsuits about this by now and got the media interested.
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 12:33 AM
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13. Lawsuits Will Not Win The Election, Public Opinon of SBVT Frauds Will
so let them keep making an ass of themselves and we will continue to show this to the public.

Politicians don't understand this, but the public is quite intelligent and "street smart" they see through all this BS if we stay on top of it.

However, there will be several criminal indictments over this SBVT mess but it will be after the election.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 09:08 PM
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10. Nominated For Homepage. Thanks For Finding This!
:)
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 09:26 PM
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12. Kick.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 12:36 AM
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14. biiiiiiiig KICK
I'm talking 50 yard field goal here
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