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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:17 PM
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Giuliani goes after Kerry HARD in speech tonight
i just read through his remarks tonight, and there are TEN mentions of john kerry's name... saying he has no vision for america, he's a flip flopper, etc... he even makes fun of edwards' "two americas" saying he guesses that's so kerry can have it both ways.


so much for that positive, uplifting theme we've come to expect from republicans.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:18 PM
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1. You call that "hard"?
lame
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:21 PM
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5. edited
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 06:23 PM by newsguyatl
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:22 PM
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I think the poster's lame reference was to the GOP tactics
not you. :)
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:34 PM
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12. True, I meant "lame" speech, not lame poster
:hi:
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:19 PM
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2. What about Giuliani's 2 mistresses?
Bet he won't mention that in his little speech.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:20 PM
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4. Guess that makes him a flip-flopper, too
:evilgrin:
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:22 PM
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8. Yep
Especially since he dropped his wife for one of them. If that's not flip-flopping I don't know what is.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:21 PM
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7. He won't, but KERRY should.
:grr:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:20 PM
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3. So we can expect a horrified CNN to rave that he's "off-message"?
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Ithuilwen Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:21 PM
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6. Don't make me laugh.
:puke:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:32 PM
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9. GOP'er always push to the obnoxious level of
division.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:34 PM
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10. It will play into Kerry's hands
On how Bush is running the most negative campaign in history.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:46 PM
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16. as well it should
because he is. The swiftvet smear takes the cake.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:52 PM
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22. something like 70% of Bush ads are negative
...and that's not including the SBVFT ads. Bush's official ads are overhwelmingly negative and are almost completely devoid of ANY mention of what W's platform.
He can't run on a platform.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:34 PM
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11. How WILL CNN cover this?
Will they say it was overheated rhetoric? Will they say it is Kerry-bashing? Will they "Sharpton" him?

I do hope Judy and Wolf don't have double standards.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:47 PM
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17. You Should Ask?
Tomorrow, the meme will be that Guilani "America's Mayor" (he's not even New York's mayor!) landed a major blow on Kerry...and also a devestating blow by "fellow vet and friend" McCain.

The script reads that by Thursday Kerry's framed to be weak on everything and Bunnypants rides to the rescue.

The only thing we can do is point it out as it occurs and soon our time for bringing this network into account is at hand.

Most Trusted Name in News? Bullshit! Time to shoot that logo down.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:53 PM
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23. guiliani is not my Fu*king mayor...
he can blow himself.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:35 PM
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13. Maybe if people clap hard enough and he thinks how wonderful he is
he will ask that he stay at the podium for the rest of the convention.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:44 PM
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14. even Rudy the Lisp goes negative
that's just sad
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:44 PM
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15. Kerry-bashing, Kerry-bashing, Kerry-bashing
Say it CNN!
Say it MSNBC!
Say it CBS!
Say it ABC!
Say it NBC!

Wishful thinking I know. After all we heard about Bush-bashing for a solid week in the run-up to the DNC but I've yet to hear any of them mention that the RNC will have Kerry-bashing. Liberal media my ass.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:48 PM
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18. Where are all the Dems to rebut?
Are there Dems all over, to defend Kerry & criticize RNC as being mean & negative?

At the DNC, the Rs had Ralph Reed & others out there.

Hope there is a vigorous rebuttal.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:04 PM
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27. We're too polite and well mannered for that kind of thing, don't ya know.
:puke:
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GOPAgainstGW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:49 PM
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19. Giuliani is A Worthless Maggot! His ex learned he was leaving her on TV!!
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:49 PM
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20. I knew this was coming
Yet the Dems wanted to play friggin nice guy at their convention. Playing nice doesn't win shit in politics
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:51 PM
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21. guiliani does not have the right to throw stones
at anyone. I hope our Dems have a good counterpunch for these snickering little lies.
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Comicstripper Donating Member (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:55 PM
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24. I hate that flip-flopper label
It's COMPLETELY ARBITRARY. They pick one of Bush's percieved strength (decisiveness), and then attack Kerry as being the opposite.
They did it in 2000 (when Bush was "personable,down-to-earth", rove made gore out to be "stiff" and "dull")
This is classic Rove, and very transparent.

That being said, the line about two Americas is actually kinda funny.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:03 PM
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26. I don't hate it; it's just lame.
Flip-flop, flip-flop; what does that even mean? Hello, Kerry's a politician? most of them do this? this is baseline politician behavior? as accusations go, it's still a lot less damning than, oh, I don't know, DELUSIONAL LYING SMIRKING MURDEROUS FUCKWAD WHO GOT US INTO A TERRIBLE WAR FOR ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD REASON, BROKE OUR BUDGET, LOST MILLIONS OF JOBS, AND CAN'T EVEN COMPLETE A SIMPLE SENTENCE WITHOUT FUCKING IT UP.

Or, say, DRUNKEN DESERTER CHICKENHAWK HYPOCRITE.

Or: SPOILED SNOTNOSE COKED-UP OVERGROWN LAZY-ASSED NEPOTISTIC FRATBOY

Or: RAVING FUNDAGELICAL MEGOLOMANIAC PSYCHO.

Just speaking hypothetically.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 06:56 PM
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25. Oh, fuck him.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:05 PM
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28. Took the words right off my typing fingers!
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:11 PM
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29. Got a link?
Do you know where the text of the speech is posted? Thank you!
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 07:35 PM
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30. Unless they plan to change their schedule..
neither ABC or NBC is showing the convention on their schedule tonight, at least not in NYC. CBS has the keynote speech listed at 10PM.

I don't know if the decision to show or not show the convention is the local affiliate's choice or a national one.
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