Undecided Voters Speak Out; Bush Favored Over Kerry by 25 Points

[mzmolly]

August 30, 2004

Undecided Voters Speak Out; Bush Favored Over Kerry by 25 Points (35%-10%); 67% Say they “Like Bush As A Person”; 40% Watch Fox Most for News; 77% Give the President a Negative Job Performance Rating; 87% Say they “Wish there were Other Candidates in the Race”; 26% Say their Vote for President “Will Not Count”, New Zogby/Williams Identity Poll Reveals

On the eve of the Republican National Convention, President George W. Bush is favored by twenty-five points over Massachusetts Senator John Kerry (35%-10%) among undecided likely voters when Libertarian, Constitution and Green Party presidential candidates are factored into the 2004 presidential race, according to a new Zogby/Williams Identity poll.

The interactive poll of 19,033 likely voters, which included 501 undecided likely voters and those most likely to change their minds, was conducted from Wednesday through Tuesday (August 11-24, 2004) by the Zogby/Williams Institute. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/0.7. Margin of error for undecided voters is +/- 4.5.

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=854

Look at this:

Do you like or dislike Bush?
Undecided

Like
67

Dislike
15

Undecided
18


Do you or don’t you like John Kerry as a person?

Do you like or dislike Kerry?
Undecided

Like
16

Dislike
52

Undecided
32

Believe it or not, we have to hit Bush on "likability" and of course Iraq and 911. And we have to show Kerry's likable side as well.

I realize this sounds "foolish" but it's essential. :shrug:

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Oh, horsehockey.

It was an online poll. $5.00 says it was freeped. Go search freepyland, I'll bet you find the post giving them the heads up.

[annxburns]

2. Wasn't this an internet poll?

I am sorry, I cannot resolve the 77% who give Bush an neg. job approval and the percentage of undecideds over Bush.

[mzmolly]

4. Was it ? PHEW!!!

:)

[TSIAS]

7. It was taken online

However, it does appear to be a scientific poll. It's not one of those CNN or MSNBC polls that appear online.

Regarding the methodology, I have no clue how accurate this is.

[dennis4868]

11. Why do you say....

it is scientific if it is an online poll?

[Newsjock]

3. This just in: 55% of undecided voters still undecided

No big surprise there.

[aquart]

5. They like Bush but are still undecided?????

The Zogby Poll asks Very Likely to vote as well as Likely. I'd really like to know if these babies only put "Likely."

[HysteryDiagnosis]

8. I'm in debt.... your children are in debt... their children will be in deb

What is it with people when you are piling dirt on top of them... and they just keep asking for more. If the DNC or Moveon would put up billboards along major interstates with figures and details as explained below.... shrub would just be another tumbling tumbleweed blowing and rolling back to Texas, as well he should be.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/04/08/27_horrors.html
>>And, to ensure that the budgetary system will be SNAFU long after they're gone, they have placed the country into a humongous deficit hole - trillions! - that ensures an enormous tax and interest burden on our children years and years into the forseeable future.<<

[mzmolly]

12. Weiner rocks!

I totally agree. We owe it to our children to vote BUSH OUT!

[Democat]

6. We will see what the polls say after the convention

Regardless of the problems with this poll, it's pretty obvious that things are trending against Kerry right now because of the Swift Boat Liars. Hopefully Kerry has a plan to come back.

Kerry will probably be the underdog after the Republican convention. According to people who know Kerry's career, he fights hard when he's down. We all hope so.

[JI7]

9. this is an internet poll

[napi21]

10. Yes, this was an internet poll, but am I the only stupid one in the

Country? I took this poll "On-line" and I told the truth! I guess I'm just stupid that way! I don't know if on-line is their only contacts though. They may include dorect pone calls as well.

The other thing about this tidbit of info is that the "Undecideds" report was one selection from many questions. It doesn't say "Who would you vote for, etc. I know I've heard quite a few people on c-span Washington Journal in the morning say that they don't like either candidate "personaly". That goes to the statement that for years people have been voting for the better of two bad.

[keyzersoze13]

13. Numbers

There had better be something wrong with those numbers. Looking over it, they remind me of a nightmare I've had.

Intriguingly, despite Bush's lead, look at the job approval numbers. Something's definately up.

[Nicholas_J]

14. Thats an odd way of putting

Undecided voters favor Bush means they are not undecided.

But and large, Independent voters favor Kerry by over 20 point, and these are largely who make up the undecided voter group.

ALso this is contrary to the results in every election in U.S. history. In the last two weeks of the election in every election in U.S. History, the remaiing undecided voters have always gone for the oppisition candidate, not the incumbent at rought 75 to 85 percent of them going against the current president.

What is also odd is that this entire poll itself has Kerry beating BUsh by a significant percentage compared to other polls.

[union_maid]

15. Zogby's Internet Polls are not so reliable

I get it at two different e-mail addresses. I don't even know why. I must have signed up twice by mistake. But you have to figure if I could do it by accident, anyone could do it on purpose and with a lot more addresses.

[Lex]

16. This is a WORTHLESS internet poll. And this topic was discussed here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x693859

earlier today---

[troublemaker]

17. Poll Analysis - this is OK with me

The undecided voters in this poll mostly do not think Bush deserves another term, and they dislike John Kerry. Well, what else could they think?

Step through it... We know that any undecided voter must have a problem with BOTH candidates, or else she wouldn't be undecided. If a person wants want 4 more years AND dislikes Kerry she would not be undecided. If a person wants Bush out and LIKES Kerry she would not be undecided.

A few undecideds just like everybody and are indecisive; they want 4 more years and like Kerry. The great remaining majority of undecideds should be people who want Bush out but do not like Kerry.

The fact that they like Bush is nice for Bush, but of course they like Bush--if these people hated Bush they would be ABB, not undecided. Since the debates lie ahead it's better for Kerry's weakness to be personality rather than policy. He can at least try to act likable. Bush can't undo Iraq.