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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:00 PM
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Bush still leads on security and terror?!
There has got to be a way to steal that "advanatage" from this loser!



http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A46918-2004Aug30?language=printer

Kerry Loses Edge On Issues Of Security

By Richard Morin and Christopher Muste
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, August 31, 2004; Page A01

President Bush holds clear advantages over John F. Kerry on national security issues and leadership in the war on terrorism, largely erasing the broad gains Kerry made at his party's Boston convention last month, but voters continue to give the president negative marks on the economy and his handling of Iraq, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

At the opening of the Republican National Convention, Bush and Kerry remained deadlocked in the race for the White House, with each claiming 48 percent of likely voters, with 1 percent supporting independent Ralph Nader, virtually unchanged from a survey taken immediately after the Democratic convention. Among all registered voters, the poll found Bush at 48 percent and Kerry at 47 percent, a shift in the president's direction since the previous survey.

The survey offered conflicting evidence of the impact of the controversy over Kerry's Vietnam War record and television ads attacking his character aired by a group called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. A solid majority of voters said they believe that Kerry deserved the medals he won in Vietnam, and most voters characterized the issue of Vietnam as irrelevant to their choice in November. But in the past month, Kerry's personal image has deteriorated, with almost as many voters viewing him unfavorably as favorably.

The new poll confirms the suggestion by other recent surveys that, despite clear dissatisfaction about the direction of the country, Bush has regained ground lost to Kerry on national security issues. Republicans will now attempt to build on those shifts during their four-day convention, which opened yesterday in New York. Bush advisers see the convention as an opportunity to highlight the president's leadership in the war on terrorism and also to attack Kerry's Senate record in an effort to portray him as inconsistent and unreliable.

The new poll found that a slight majority of registered voters -- 53 percent -- say Bush is more qualified than Kerry to be commander in chief, while 43 percent say they prefer the Democratic nominee. At the end of the Democratic convention, Kerry enjoyed an eight-point advantage over Bush on that question. Taken together, the results of the poll suggest that Bush's recent gains have come from eroding perceptions of Kerry and not as a consequence of improved views of Bush's performance as president.
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misterphelps Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:08 PM
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1. this is a failure of Kerry staff / strategy
When Kerry came out strongly against the swift charges. He needs to explain himself quickly to the nitwits. He also has to come out powerfully... America wants a strong leader, not a whiner complaining that the opponent is hitting him. Kick this SOB in the nuts, fer cryin out loud
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:24 PM
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2. We'll see how they handle September.
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 11:25 PM by BurtWorm
They're going to need to eviscerate Bush on these issues in particular. I fear that they will do so by trying to out-Bush Bush. They actually need to make it clear that Bush is the worst piece of shit to have in charge if you want security. They have to show over and over how Bush has made us less secure--play dirty if they have to by pointing out the number of Americans, in service and out, who've been killed in the needless war in Iraq, how the number of terrorist attacks went up to its highest level EVER in the year since the start of the Iraq war. Just keep hitting the bastards over and over and over and over. Think like Rove: When we're done with that shmuck, Americans will think he's a personal friend of Osama bin Laden. (He is, isn't he?) And don't let up until you've accomplished that very goal.
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cornfedyank Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:26 PM
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3. debate the reasons for the terror attacks
i think that will expose the greed of shrub et al.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:39 PM
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4. Nobody but Bush
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 11:40 PM by samplegirl
Could handle terrorists....the Democrats would just have to surrender
the West Wing....and wave the white flag.
I think Chris Matthews best exposed Bush......in saying the next
war we will have zero allies.
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cornfedyank Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:39 PM
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5. "you can create conditions so that they who use terror are less acceptable
Edited on Mon Aug-30-04 11:42 PM by cornfedyank
there it is. the miss america answer. "all i want is world peace."

make shrub debate what conditions and how they can be achieved.

he can not do that with out showing his true mentality.

they don't hate us for our freedom. they hate us because we put sweaters on our dogs while people starve.
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airron Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-04 11:41 PM
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6. Bush on terror?
Had W finished My Pet Goat when Rudy said, "Thank God George Bush is our President"?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 12:15 AM
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7. Last election, Bush tried to sound reasonable about "arrogance"
and the press loooooooooooooooooved him for it. And in fact, I (and other lefties, no doubt), said at the time that Bush's responses in the second debate on foreign policy sounded more reasonable than Al Gore's. Bush sounded better on the Middle East, in particular, than Gore did, sounded like he wanted to take a balanced approach--it was Gore who brought up the "special relationship" crap. So if I were inclined to think Rove is an evil genius (I'm actually agnostic on the question), I might think he'd decided to sneak a dash of "reasonableness" into Bush's talk about the war on terror, to make him sound surprisingly grown-up, maybe even to goad Kerry or Edwards into saying something pseudo-macho about the "war on terror."
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cornfedyank Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 01:17 AM
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9. shrub is a corporate entity in good ol' boy clothes.
i do not like seeing people fooled by somebody that leans over and winks "it's ok." shrub et al believe that the corporate being has the same rights as human being.

by taking him into the reasons people get mad enough to do very bad things, you can show that his favorite Bible verse is "F*ck the poor, they will always be around."
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 01:11 AM
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8. What are they going to do when the Swift Boat ads in October show
Kerry throwing his medals and they say his actions resulted in Americans being tortured?

WTF are they going to do with THAT????? Add a little bombing in Iran...it's over.
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