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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:51 PM
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Can someone please explain to me why Hillary won't attack Palin?
Why is she only targeting McCain?

It's pretty frustrating. She could really help us right now.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:53 PM
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1. The media would just reduce it to a "catfight" anyways.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:01 PM
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11. That's funny. I was going to say the EXACT same thing
Let's wait and see.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:35 AM
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46. Stop worrying about what the media is going to do, and FIGHT THE REPUBLICANS.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:29 AM
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47. You must have mistaken me for someone else.
I'll forgive you this time, but don't let it happen again. :spank:
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:53 PM
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2. She has..

..it just hasn't been on tv. Some people here were talking about a video you can watch when she was speaking in Florida just within the past day or so.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:53 PM
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3. She will.
Give her time.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:55 PM
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4. TRUTH: To be really EFFECTIVE the viciousness would also lose her some support for 2012
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 11:02 PM by Sensitivity
While Obama may still lose anyway. IMHO

She is driven to protect her options re. her relationship with McCain, the gains she has made with a broad range of voters, as well as the Party itself -- she is doing a delicate balancing act.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:10 AM
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48. Dupe - delete
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 11:11 AM by Arkansas Granny
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:10 AM
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49. I tend to believe that Hillary is not attacking Palin because Obama's campaign
does not want her to attack Palin right now. When she is campaigning for Obama she will take her cues from him and won't be determining her own talking points, but will be coordinating her remarks with Obama's campaign.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:15 AM
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52. Oh there you go with that logic stuff again!
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:22 AM
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55. I know. It's bound to get me in trouble one of these days.
:hi:
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:56 PM
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5. She is smart not to go there, think about it.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:56 PM
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6. She's attacking the ticket and its policies as a Senator and a Democrat.
I think that's a pretty appropriate stand.
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greenvpi Donating Member (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:57 PM
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7. Why would she support Obama...
When Obama hasn't supported her?
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:23 PM
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28. Care to expand on that? I've not heard a negative word from Obama re Hillary
since before the primaries ended. I HAVE however, heard lots of positive comments.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:15 AM
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53. What are you talking about? Hillary and Obama are working together to get him elected.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:57 PM
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8. She did attack...on the issues.....
which is what we are making important in this election, remember?

Distractions are a dime a dozen; Hillary piling on McCain/Palin with the issues? Priceless.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:58 PM
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9. Well, the official Tin Foil Hat Club explanation is...
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 10:58 PM by Atman
...that she wants McCain/Palin to win because McCain will probably not make it through his first term anyway, and definitely won't make a second term, BUT...with Palin as Veep, the perfect set-up is in place.

Clinton v. Palin in 2012.

Hmmm.

:tinfoilhat:

.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:00 PM
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10. What crap. Just keep spreading it and dividing the party.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:41 AM
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34. BWHAHAHA! You don't have a clue who I am or what I do.
I'm not dividing the party at all. I posted what was clearly labeled as a tin-foil hat theory, and not even an original one. It was actually discussed on the morning lie programs. Last I checked, people were still allowed to discuss ideas. It's a shame you're not able to do so.

Meanwhile, I still be actively getting Democrats elected. My record is pretty damned good so far. Maybe after November 4 I'll be able to share a bit more. But don't you or anyone else accuse me of dividing the party. You're clueless.

.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 08:25 AM
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40. Yeah and it keeps appearing here. It isn't helping.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:56 PM
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32. Ya'see now that's not even tin foil that's what is easily recognized as 'brain dead gobbledygook'...
:spray:
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:03 PM
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12. Because ultimately the race is about Obama/McShame. She shouldn't go after imPalin (nt)
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:06 PM
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13. This is TOTAL NONSENCE. Just the opposite is true. Hill should go after Palin cus Obama can not.
Palin opened the door for a Hill attack becaused she used her name to buttress the rationale for her own candidacy.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:10 PM
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18. And if Hill attacks her, it takes the focus off Obama/McShame.
imPalin was nominated for VP, people generally don't vote for VP. It's not NONSENSE, it's good political strategy. Why keep all the attention on her when she's not running for POTUS? That's exactly what the GOP wants, to take the focus off the fact that McShame has absolutely NO platform to run on.
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:13 PM
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23. The FOCUS is on PALIN NOW. May continue if no one takes her down. Obama Loses
w that senario since he will never regain traction.
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Ewellian Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:16 PM
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25. Palin will take herself down. nt
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:12 PM
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22. What is nonsense is the claim she isn't doing her part as defined by Obama's campaign.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 11:13 PM by kikiek
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:15 PM
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24. You are REALLY saying that Hillary Clinton has been waiting for Obama to define her role???
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 11:17 PM by Sensitivity

Obama will accept what Hill is willing to do. But that certainly seems constrained by what appears to be in her own best interests.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:17 PM
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26. Of course they are. You think they just all go out on their own? It is much more controlled
than that. They let her know what they want from her. Unlike DU world, they are much more sane and united.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:19 PM
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27. You got any evidence to back up that claim? Or you looking to cause party dissention?
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:30 PM
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29. You really need to watch the docu "Our Brand is Crisis"
Following members of a political consulting firm to Bolivia, where they've been hired to help controversial candidate Gonzalo "Goni" Sanchez de Lozada reclaim the presidency, filmmaker Rachel Boynton reveals the manipulation and orchestration involved in big-time political campaigning. With only a few weeks before the election, consultants Jeremy Rosner, Stan Greenberg and James Carville work their magic, shaping Goni into the ideal candidate.


This documentary will give so much insight into how the actual candidates are shaped and what really goes on behind the scenes of a major election.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:18 AM
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54. If Obama wants Hillary to go after Palin, she will. In the meantime, she attacks on issues.
That's probably in their game plan.
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glancingthefuture Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:07 PM
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14. Because Hillary has class and knows what will happen--
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:08 PM
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15.  Because Palin is running for VP and it isn't her job? Mccain is the top of the ticket .
It seems awfully sexist to imply she somehow has an obligation to attack P alin because she shares her gender.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:08 PM
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16. 2012. Do they really need to issue a memo?
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 11:09 PM by Skwmom
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:13 AM
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51. Here's a memo
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LVjinx Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:09 PM
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17. Because attacks against Palin are a distraction that make McCain look more presidential?
If he can get the opposition to engage Palin, instead of him, he has effectively reduced Obama to the level of a VP candidate. Unfortunately, Obama's already gone about comparing his experience to Palin's, which is exactly the sort of trap Republicans were hoping he would fall into.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:10 PM
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19. Because that would backfire
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 11:10 PM by Quixote1818
It would be reduced to a cat-fight and juvenile. Just because Hillary is a woman doesn't give her the right to attack Palin just because she is a woman. That would seem juvenile and petty. It would totally backfire.

Let some time pass then she can attack Palin, but she can't come out of the gate and just go after Palin and not McSame. That would be a disaster.
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MaraJade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:11 PM
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20. Hillary only discusses the issues, and right now
The issue is where McCain stands on how this nation should be governed. Palin is a non-issue
and Hillary has way too much class to get into a catfight. Hillary is DIGNIFIED and SMART, and
I am happy that she is staying that way.
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:12 PM
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21. Hillary has class!
She won't put herself in the same category as the lying Palin. More and more negatives are coming out all the time about Palin.
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:44 PM
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30. I've never been a huge fan of Hillary but I have to say...
attacking Palin would be beneath her. Palin is a gimmick. Hillary is doing a great job hitting McSame hard here in FL. Keep up the great work Hillary!

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 11:52 PM
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31. Hillary shut the fuck up! Hillary start the fuck talking! Would someone please explain to me...
why some people can't make up their minds :dunce:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:46 AM
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36. Here's the explanation
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:04 AM
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41. Don't forget the DU mantra "HIllary! Get OFF the stage!"
On the stage...off the stage. Speak up. Shut up.

Whatever.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 12:16 AM
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33. It's very simple.
The election is about Obama vs mcCain. Not Obama vs Palin, not Hillary vs Palin. She's doing the right thing. Hillary going after Palin allows the GOP to reframe the debate and draws attention from John McCain.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:45 AM
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35. You might be attacked for asking.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:49 AM
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37. Because Hillary is not runnign for Vice President!!!!!
She is campaigning for Obama. Palin is Biden's problem (and ours, of course).

Just because Hillary is a woman she is supposed to get in a cat fight with Palin??


Obama vs. McCain
Biden vs. Palin

Hillary Clinton FOR the Democratic ticket.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:52 AM
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38. I think it was explained yesterday
that Hillary is going after only the repig party, and not the candidates.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 07:59 AM
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39. Because the Obama strategy is to attack McCain - DON'T TAKE THE BAIT!
Seriously... McCain put Palin on the ticket to entice Dems to attack her, make her look like the victim and get the sympathy vote. She looks much "softer" then Hillary did, thus she would be more succeptible to that type of campaign.

I think Obama is being smart here.. don't attack.. let her history come out, and let people make up their minds without making her into a victim of the big mean black guy. That's exactly what the McCain camp wants.

I really think Obama is playing this one correctly... let's see where the polls are at in about 2 weeks.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:06 AM
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42. If she attacked Palin the whiners would be complaining she didn't say anything nice about Obama
Anyway, what exactly would you want her to say?
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Hatchling Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:23 AM
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43. I assume Hillary is staying on message.
If Obama wanted her to rip Palin a new one, she would be out there doing it. Trust the Obama campaign is using all their resources wisely, including HiIlary.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:27 AM
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44. Because Palin is not at the top of the ticket
Edited on Tue Sep-09-08 09:28 AM by MrWiggles
The more we talk about Palin the longer it will take the attention away from the issues. McCain is the presidential nominee and he should be the target of Hillary Clinton and all other democrats.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 09:30 AM
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45. She is probably doing what the Obama campaign has asked her to do
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:10 AM
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50. She doing as the Obama camp wants her to do.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:29 AM
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56. I think she's been quite effective on the stump for Obama. For example:
“Who are you for?” Mrs. Clinton said. “That’s the wrong question. It should be: Who is for you? Who will fight for you?”

After someone in the audience yelled, “Tell us about Palin,” Mrs. Clinton replied: “I don’t think that’s what this election is about. Anybody who believes that the Republicans can fix the mess they created probably believes that the iceberg could have saved the Titanic.”
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 11:33 AM
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57. The contrasts between Obama & McCain are stronger. Hillary should
keep it up.
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