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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:22 PM
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A trip down memory lane - Joe Biden vs Bush on Iraq 10/17/04
I saw this on CrooksandLiars. Here is the link (sorry no video but they deserve the props)....

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/09/but-what-about-joe-biden/

The C&L post has the part about Biden and shows that our future Vice President stood up to Bush on Iraq from the beginning and is brilliant of course. When I clicked on the NYT op-ed in the link and read the entire article I was amazed that in October '04 the American public had this information and still reelected Bush!

Bruce Bartlett, a domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan and a treasury official for the first President Bush, told me recently that ''if Bush wins, there will be a civil war in the Republican Party starting on Nov. 3.'' The nature of that conflict, as Bartlett sees it? Essentially, the same as the one raging across much of the world: a battle between modernists and fundamentalists, pragmatists and true believers, reason and religion.

''Just in the past few months,'' Bartlett said, ''I think a light has gone off for people who've spent time up close to Bush: that this instinct he's always talking about is this sort of weird, Messianic idea of what he thinks God has told him to do.'' Bartlett, a 53-year-old columnist and self-described libertarian Republican who has lately been a champion for traditional Republicans concerned about Bush's governance, went on to say: ''This is why George W. Bush is so clear-eyed about Al Qaeda and the Islamic fundamentalist enemy. He believes you have to kill them all. They can't be persuaded, that they're extremists, driven by a dark vision. He understands them, because he's just like them. . . .

''This is why he dispenses with people who confront him with inconvenient facts,'' Bartlett went on to say. ''He truly believes he's on a mission from God. Absolute faith like that overwhelms a need for analysis. The whole thing about faith is to believe things for which there is no empirical evidence.'' Bartlett paused, then said, ''But you can't run the world on faith.''

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The disdainful smirks and grimaces that many viewers were surprised to see in the first presidential debate are familiar expressions to those in the administration or in Congress who have simply asked the president to explain his positions. Since 9/11, those requests have grown scarce; Bush's intolerance of doubters has, if anything, increased, and few dare to question him now. A writ of infallibility -- a premise beneath the powerful Bushian certainty that has, in many ways, moved mountains -- is not just for public consumption: it has guided the inner life of the White House. As Whitman told me on the day in May 2003 that she announced her resignation as administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency: ''In meetings, I'd ask if there were any facts to support our case. And for that, I was accused of disloyalty!'' (Whitman, whose faith in Bush has since been renewed, denies making these remarks and is now a leader of the president's re-election effort in New Jersey.)


Well of course he was wrong about the Republicans. They had 2 more years at the trough. Thankfully we'll finally be rid of this national nightmare of a President in a few more months.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:27 PM
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1. The World watches to see if we are cognizant, awake, and with REASON
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