Obama Should Apologize For Pig Comment

[iamjoy]

something like this:

Well, I didn't intend it that way, and I'm sorry you took it that way. Of course, since the McCain campaign can't really address the substance of my statement - that they really don't offer anything different than the past 8 years - they have to attack the metaphor. I hope Senator McCain will also apologize for the times during the primary he called Hillary Clinton a pig by applying the same phrase to her.

[Midlodemocrat]

1. Fail. He should apologize for nothing.

[VeraAgnes]

27. I expect that will be the end result.

Next will be the sexist claims...... OMG this has gotten filthy.

[Craftsman]

45. Yes he should

These personal attacks on her and her family are discusting. If you can't win on issue you shouldn't win.

[Midlodemocrat]

51. Woo boy.

Obama isn't attacking her family. The blogs are. She made herself out to be the Perfect Hockey Mom and it turns out that if was indeed a lipstick wearing pig it would be an improvement.

And, we will win, sweet cheeks. Take that one back to FR and chew on it.

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[MadHound]

54. Excuse me, but personal attacks are part and parcel of politics, have been since the beginning

If either Palin or McCain can't stand them, then they need to get out of the race. Furthermore, the comment wasn't meant to insult Palin, it was meant to insult McCain.

Palin brought her family into this race. She is using her baby as a prop, using her family as part of her resume, using her "family values" as a weapon. She brought her family into the national debate, she can't very well call foul and declare them off limits. Oh, and this lipstick comment wasn't about her family, it was about McCain. Obama has stated, and followed through with his conviction that Palin's family is off limits. Fine and dandy for him, but they are out there as fair game for the rest of us.

And as far as winning on issues alone, well good luck with that. Bush won and he didn't run on issues he ran on fear. This is US politics, and it isn't played by the Marquis of Queensbury rules. Get used to it.

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[babylonsister]

63. Why are you so ignorant? There were no personal attacks, it wasn't about

Palin. You need to go find the correct board for your views; this ain't it.

Why not educate yourself? THIS is what was said prior to the lipstick comment. They're taking everything out of context and then lying about it. Get it? Same as it ever was:

"John McCain Says He's About Change, Too - Except For Economic Policy, Healthcare Policy, Tax Policy, Education Policy, Foreign Policy And Karl Rove-Style Politics"

Obama was talking directly about McBush's policies and said nothing about Palin.

[NikolaC]

70. Uhmm

The word is "disgusting" and he may not be able to "win on issue", but he can "win on the issues". Furthermore, the really disgusting behavior that I have seen this election cycle has been perpetrated against Obama and his family and they have been coming from McSame/Palin and the Repubs. So, until they apologize for what has been ridiculous lies, attacks, racist comments and behavior, he should not apologize. Besides, he did not say or do anything wrong. He wasn't attacking her.

[Richard Steele]

71. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and thus appear foolish.

nm

[izzybeans]

79. Prove he attacked her family. Try it.

Come on. prove it.

[azmouse]

83. "Spare me the phony outrage!"

Straight from Obama himself.

[lumberjack_jeff]

86. That was one of the most ludicrous things I've ever read here.

No one attacked her, and certainly not to the degree she deserves.

It's faux outrage, and only the Republicans can successfully deploy the apron shield on behalf of their candidate.

[onefreespiritedchick]

89. Hmmm, there were no personal attacks on her or her family

and you know it! I do believe your posting on the wrong board.

[Raineyb]

93. He didn't make a personal attack on her and if he did so what?

You think the mocking community organizer meme wasn't personal? Get a grip!

No apologies!

Regards

[niceypoo]

81. Why should he appologize? Cuz they purposly take it out of context

Fuck them, there is video of McCain saying same about Hillary.

[lumberjack_jeff]

85. Yes. EPIC fail.

"I'm sorry" or "I apologize" are the two words that Obama should never use in politics.

Weight on toes, not on heels.

[BeyondGeography]

2. Worst.idea.ever.

[Zombie2]

3. NEGATIVE

"GET UP... GO GET EM!" ~ Joe Biden 09/08/2008

[DemzRock]

4. Agreed. Nothing to apologize for. n/t

[DemzRock]

5. Agreed. Nothing to apologize for. n/t

[TexasObserver]

6. Absolutely not. That is an absurd idea.

Groveling is what Democrats have done far too much of in response to being played by GOP memes.

[ingac70]

7. He most certainly should not! n/t

[BurtWorm]

8. No apology necessary. No explanation necessary.

Obama should flip McCain the bird and say, "Put lipstick on this."

[BumRushDaShow]

9. WTF?

:wtf:

Obama campaign has said unequivocably (and the M$M has backed this) that there was no reference to Saran Bin Palin and no apology is required.

[scheming daemons]

10. Thank God you're not running the campaign.... BAD IDEA

Project strength, not weakness.


Right now... the McCain camp looks weak and wimpy on this.

[bunkerbuster1]

11. NO NO NO NO. NO. NO NO NO, he should NOT.

Do not even breath the word "sorry" or "apologize" or "regret" within a thousand fucking words of the phrase "lipstick on a pig."

I get what you're saying, turn it back on them in a clever way, but this is decidedly NOT the time to be clever and nuanced.

Hit them with a fucking chair, over and over again, until the debates.

(ok, and take tomorrow off, at least an hour or two before/after the 9/11 commemoration.)

[cali]

12. Wrong. Not just wrong but epically wrong

The only thing that would come out of such a moronic statement would be headlines blaring: "Obama apologizes to Palin for calling her a pig".

[dansolo]

13. Absolutely not

Obama should ignore the whole matter. It is a common expression. He should apologize for nothing. It's not his fault that she reinforced the whole lipstick connection.

[PA Democrat]

14. NO. He should use it EVERY SINGLE DAY.

[whitewomenforobama]

15. John McCain likes "Lipstick on a pig" references too

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8IhMMhe8w

[a kennedy]

16. Are you nuts???

Absolutely not!!!

[Meshuga]

17. You see how the McCain smear campaign is so effective? Even YOU fall for it

Apologize? He should repeat it with an attack in context to what he was talking about.

Obama should use it again to attack McCain and for people to see what he is saying. Apologize my ass!

[jefferson_dem]

18. Ugh.

He has nothing to apologize for. No need for him to validate jack shit that comes from their slime machine.

[Lint Head]

19. It is a common phrase that John McCain has used. NBC just played it.

:dem:

[shaniqua6392]

20. He should only say that he was comparing McCain policies

to Bush policies. He was not even referring to Palin.

[annabanana]

33. not even that. . . He shouldn't respond to their fainting spell AT ALL!

[Liberal Dose]

21. I agree with drawing attention to McBush using it against Hillary, but not apologies! nt

[DainBramaged]

22. Right, of course, thanks for your concern

[liberalla]

23. No way, No how, No apology!

[Orsino]

24. No. "I'm sorry you took it that way" is the way Republicans "apologize."

It's not an apology, and in this case no apology is called for.

[ima_sinnic]

25. NOT. He should instead repeat it several more times

If McFailin had anything substantial to stand on, this would not be an issue. Their wimpy widdle cwy-baby BS just points out that fact even more. Poor widdle wussy candidates need to start addressing some of the issues that are really affecting Americans and the world instead of the truth that their whole "campaign" is nothing but lipstick on a PIG.

[ccharles000]

26. ...

FUCK NO

[Honeycombe8]

28. Big mistake to even ref. this nonsense. He should cont. his campaign on the economy.

He doesn't need to be discussing the second banana on the other side at all, at all.

The economy is what needs to be discussed.

Plus, he needs some good attack ads out there. I'm not seeing any.

[Not a robought]

29. thanks but

that won't be needed.

[CJCRANE]

30. Truth hurts. Let the 'pubs squeal. nt

[AlinPA]

38. It wasn't about Palin, though. It was made in reference to McCain policies. nt

[CJCRANE]

56. Exactly - that's why they're squealing nt.

[ClarkUSA]

31. Yeah, sure -- after McCain apologizes to Hillary for calling her a pig.

Jerk.

[annabanana]

32. thanks but no thanks...

mealy mouthed "explanations" are exactly the WRONG response

[AlinPA]

34. ???? That is a commonly used phrase in politics and it wasn't made in reference to Palin. Stupid

suggestion. He was talking about policies not Palin.

[TornadoTN]

35. I was at the Town Hall in Lebanon and got to meet Obama - he has nothing to apologize for

He was talking about McCain's policies in direct comparison to the Bush administration. He had been talking about how McCain was claiming to bring "change" when he's just more of the same - he said you can take an old fish and wrap it in a newspaper and call it change, but that doesn't make it so. Later on, he commended Palin as a mother and commented on the fact that he has respect for her as a mother since he has two kids that wear he and Michelle out.

The only people stupid enough to think he was referring to Palin or McCain as people (even though I'll go as far as to say they are both the lowest of pigs) would be Republicans who are either too stupid to listen or those looking for an excuse to whine and get some press exposure. Barak needs to move on, stand by his characterization of McCain's policies, and leave it at that. This is a non-issue that McCain's trying to milk to keep his name in the media.

Other than that, it was a great night and a great experience. I drove a couple hours to get to the Town Hall, I have a college friend who is a teacher at the school and she called me up and got me in. It struck me that so many people from so many walks of life had come to see Obama speak in a typically strong GOP region. There were even more people outside waiting!!! I even had a few minutes to speak to Obama myself - which I'll write about a bit later on once my work is caught up. The man is amazing and beyond the biggest compliments and characterizations we can heap upon him here.

[noel711]

36. No! McCain, et al, have driven this conversation...

you can't pretend you are NOT down in the mud.
So...wanna talk that way?
Here's what I think.

No apology necessary.

[dennis4868]

37. And the jews...

should apologize for the Holocaust?

[ncteechur]

39. NO APOLOGY. PERIOD.

[randr]

40. Obama should express disgust that the Mcsame camp

would associate his use of the word "pig" with their candidate.
It is the Mcsame people who hear the word and think of Palin!

[Sanity Claws]

41. When pigs fly

No apology.

[rug]

42. Agreed. Imagine how the pigs feel.

[nolabels]

78. I am NON-religious but thinking about pigs reminds why i avoid meat

Cruel Conditions at a Nebraska Pig Farm
GoVeg.com // Undercover Investigations // Pigs // Cruel Conditions at a Nebraska Pig Farm:
http://www.goveg.com/nebraskapigfarm.asp

[Ganja Ninja]

43. Wrong.

Don't even bring up the word apology. Don't acknowledge their outrage at all. Just stick the the subject at hand, the last 8 years of failure.

[DeadManInc]

44. Apologize for nothing. Tell them to go Cheney themselves.

[InNeedOfUserName]

46. No apologly... playing off the lipstick was fine...but

he should leave it alone...

It was a suppose to be a quick gag, it turned into a distraction.

It got him off message...that helps McCain.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. HE SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO THE PIG(S)

~

[Midlodemocrat]

52. Series. And she should apologize to pit bulls.

Those poor sentient beings. Being compared to HER? :puke:

[alcibiades_mystery]

48. Obama should repeat that the Mccain camp seems unhinged and chaotic

And they're grasping at straws.

[Carolina]

49. Fuck no

no apologies
no compliments (re:McLame's service)

YIELD NOTHING, NEVER... this is war and all's fair!

[Waiting For Everyman]

50. No way. No apology; once started it would be replayed endlessly.

He should say when asked, "Oh, Gov. Palin's a very tough candidate, I really can't believe that she would ever be bothered by something like that. I certainly haven't heard from her to that effect."

On with his speech

[notundecided]

55. I love it

Nothing to apologize for. I think the lipstick comment is great. It works on several levels: the McCain attempt to coop Obama's' change meme and that Palin is not qualified to be VP.

Only the most partisan would think Obama meant that Palin is a pig.
How is she a pig? Is she a glutton? Is she promiscuous, is she personally filthy? I think Bill has been whispering in Obama's ear.

[Bobbie Jo]

57. No,No, No, No, No, No...McSame should apologize for the insult of his VP Pick.

Election First....Country, Not So Much. :eyes:

[Starry Messenger]

58. Why did I need to see this first thing in the morning?

Posters on DU have been screaming for years how "Kerry should have fought", "Dems have no spines" ad nauseum. Now we have a guy who is expilicitly bringing the fucking fight to the Repubs...and then this? I love my sig pic more and more each day.

MPK

[Virginia Dare]

59. Don't apologize. Don't explain.

let them continue with their knee-jerk reactionary whining. They look silly and sexist by trying to write different rules of the game for Princess Barracuda.

[bunnies]

60. Thats just retarded.

McCain didnt call Hillary a pig... and Obama didnt call Palin a pig. Why would Obama apologize for something he didnt do? Stupid. STUPID.

[adamuu]

61. no way man. no way. n/t

[MSU_Spartans]

64. Disagree. Instead, spin it right back

This is a PERFECT set up for Obama if he plays it right. The media is covering it, now it's time to strike. Something like "The comment wasn't even directly about them. They can't handle a simple metaphor. So much for pitbulls and mavericks"

An apology admits wrong doing. Saying nothing shows uncertainty. Instead, attack them over this, and you not only deflect any guilt, but paint them as weak too.

[southpaw]

65. No Fucking Way!

Obama needs to issue one formal statement pointing out the obvious: this was not a personal attack, and the shouted assertions that it was a personal attack are just another distraction from the real issues of the campain... issues McCain and Palin will do anything to avoid discussing.

[Undercurrent]

66. No way. No how.

[livedemocarticordie]

67. Hell no

He does NOT need to kiss any more ass. He is already too gracious in my opinion. He should say ask when McCain is going to apologize for his crack about Hilary's daughter Chelsea and all those women and girl civilians he's gotten killed over in IRAQ since he and Sarah are so worried about gender foul play.... then while he is sitting on his stool in one of those town hall meeting things, he should grab an english langauge dictionary on common expressions,open it up and read the definition of the phrase lipstick on a pig then follow it by saying---but see thats what happens when you don't focus on education and focus on meaningless ticky tack shit...and then the coup de grace KEEP USING THE EXPRESSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BlooInBloo]

68. Idiot.

[Hugabear]

69. Absolutely NOT. He should use it more often.

n/t

[OwnedByFerrets]

72. Fuck that...did NOTHING wrong....Im tired of us apologizing for

NOTHING. Shows us to be weak. Repugs NEVER apologize for anyfuckingthing.

[slackmaster]

73. Negative

An apology would be tantamount to an admission that it was a deliberate, sexist slur.

[GreenEyedLefty]

74. Like hell he should apologize

And yes, I read the OP. :)

[Peacetrain]

75. Obama has nothing to apologize for.. nada, not one thing

This is just another rovian trick to try and get the discussion off issues. He was not addressing mrs mooseburger.. He was addressing the mcsame campaign.

To even suggest that he should apologize for nothing is off the charts. McCain should be the one apologizing because he did do something low and dirty.

Running a commerical about sex education and mislabeling Obama, who was addressing sexaul child abuse and how to handle it.

If you are going to suggest apologies to anyone, than I would suggest them for mccain.

[kurth_]

76. SHIT NO

[aikoaiko]

77. It was, at most, a double entendre, and not worthy of an apology.

Even though I am very unhappy with the lefts Rovian-style rumor mongering and smears of Palin (instead of focusing on issues and political stances), but this is not one of them.

[krabigirl]

80. No, he shouldn't. If they don't know that he said a common phrase, screw them.

They won't vote for him anyway.

[vanderBeth]

82. Hell no.

[cliffordu]

84. OH, NOES!1!!!!!! YOU SHOULD CALL THEM IMMEDIATELY WITH THIS ADVICE!!11!1

I'M SERIES!!1!!!!!!

YOU ARE sooooooo SMEART!!11!1!

[TheKentuckian]

87. No, the Republicans WILL be held accountable for their lies.

Bring them down!!!!

ENOUGH!!!!

[democracy1st]

88. that was weak

[JVS]

90. Wrong. Try again.

[samuraiguppy]

91. hell no

no apologies. Obama did great.

[The Stranger]

92. He better not fucking apologize. I remember the Dick Durbin abandoning his constituents to lick the

boots of his GOP masters when he DARED to criticize the U.S. concentration camp at Guantanamo Bay.

The Dick Durbin has been lost to us ever since.

[Retrograde]

94. Why? McCain's asking us to buy

a pig in a poke, after all.

[ellie]

95. No

I want the repukes' noses bloodied. After having to endure their shit for the past eight years and the Dems in Congress, for the most part, there have been exceptions, taking it, I have had ENOUGH.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

96. Moosecrap! He has nothing to apologize for. He was talking about McCain's message of "change". In

fact, Obama should embrace it, show the comment in context in an ad, and then show how McCain used it when talking about Hillary Clinton's health plan a few months ago.