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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 11:59 AM
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The sad sight that has become John McCain.. flame away
I am going to stop for a second, and try and remember John McCain as he was. Oh he was brittle, and angry, and condescending to women.. but even with all that, there was character to him. He has some saving graces, many of us admired in 2000

What is in front of us now, is a sad old man, trying to tie onto Palins apron strings to lead him to victory. Something he probably could have handled 8 years ago. But now is is just a shadow of himself.

He has had to sell his personal convictions to the roves of the world. He is not only tied to Bush, by backing him 90% of the time...he is now tied to the Palin debacle, that is unfolding right before our eyes.

I honestly have to say this, I feel sorry for him. Oh I will fight him and his ilk 2000 % because if we don't we will lose this country.

But I look back, and see, how a maverick, once respected by most of America and the media, has become a nothing.

And it makes me a little sad.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:01 PM
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1. I've never really liked him and have seen him as a phony for a long time
with his maverick act.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:09 PM
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9. It most certainly is a phony thing now..
I just have a different sense of him and who he was 8 years ago to today. Scary to even think he is as close to the white house as he is, because the man is not hitting on all 8 pistons.. (shows my age there heh)
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:01 PM
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2. I don't feel one goddamned bit sorry for him. He is dividing this country even further.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:02 PM
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3. I think we're remembering the McCain that never was. Maybe he was always
an empty, nasty, petty, self-promoting, craven, power-hungry opportunist.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:07 PM
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8. Maybe he was, just looking at him on stage now
I keep looking for him to grab Palins hand so she can lead him off the stage. And the playing up to that family and their dysfunction? Its obvious he is in way way over his head at this time.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:03 PM
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4. I know what you mean.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:03 PM
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5. I firmly believe that John is no longer responsible for
his own actions. Clearly he is suffering from dementia. Memory is the first to go.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:04 PM
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7. That crossed my mind also
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mikeargo Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 06:02 PM
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24. And I can't remember what the second thing is (nt)
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:03 PM
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6. I don't feel sorry for him. I LOATHE him for having no principles whatsoever.
The man has not one redeeming quality. Yes, his captors in Vietnam broke him. So did his captors of the GOP. Pathetic.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:13 PM
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10. The more I learn about his history - the less respect I have for him
It doesn't matter that he was a POW. I respect and appreciate his service, but that doesn't mean he wasn't an asshole before or an asshole afterwards. Cheating on then dumping his wife then lying about his divorce so he could hook up with Cindy (part of the attraction had to be her money to help fuel his political ambitions), Keating 5, temper tantrums, and doing what's politically expedient to get elected. In 2000, he thought being the maverick would help him. Now, he can't embrace everything he stood against in 2000 fast enough.

McCain has just been a little bit smarter, better organized, and financed when it came to managing his reputation than others. Now this is his final hurrah, and we're seeing the true douchebag that he's always been.

TlalocW
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:13 PM
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11. He is painful to watch. I am waiting for a complete
disintegration on TV. I think it will happen during the debates. He has no one to blame but himself. He has outdone * in disgracing the office of president. I think he knows he doesn't have a chance of winning.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:51 PM
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21. I have no idea how those debates are going to go
But I would not be the least be surprised to see both mccain and palin with little wires coming out of their ears. If mccain loses that temper of his, well that will be it, except for that 20 % who would vote for Satan as long as the was an R behind the name
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:15 PM
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12. Not flaming you
you feel the way that you feel. But he is and always was a Republican and believes in what they stand for before anything else. He didn't change he's just doing what he thinks will win for him now. If he were a different breed of R than he would never have let Kerry be swiftboated the way he did and remain in the party. He stands for nothing, nothing at all. When people use the phrase 'all politicians lie' he is the classic example. He'll do anything to win this, it's his last try.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:17 PM
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13. It's nice to reserve a little sympathy for a fellow human being...
...even one who has worked so hard to destroy the nation. There is probably a little bit left of his soul, that has had to sit and watch him become what he used to decry.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:30 PM
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15. This is what kills me,
McCain is losing what status he had, and becoming a joke. Someone we have to keep from the seats of power,because he obviously is no longer a stable person.

But the roves of the world, who used him before in 2000 and attacked him and his family, who worked to destroy our military, our cia operatives,(Plame) actually gets to sit on Fox news and pontificate.

And what good McCain did do, and tried to do will forever be overshadowed by how he let himself be played.

Maybe there was always a rot at the core of his soul, that let him be led like this.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:38 PM
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16. Well, what kills me is all the misery and death he helped cause.
The millions of dead, maimed, bereaved, homeless, paupered and struggling people that have McCain (among many, many others) to thank. They get rather more of my sympathy, though made-for-TV movies about them will never be made.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:45 PM
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19. Well you are not going to get an argument with me there.
But i just can hardly abide the thought of Karl Rove, sitting like some little dictator on Fox News, and he has had his hands in this, all of this from day one. Let me add Cheney to that. There has to be a special place in hell for those people.

That is what kills me.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 01:29 PM
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22. Yep. I should also spare a thought for the millions who will be hurt in the future...
...because we refuse to dethrone the crooks.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:17 PM
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14. Maybe I could come up with one tiny violin
:nopity:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:38 PM
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17. I have never and never will feel sorry for a man who has had
a great chance to work FOR the amerikan people but has thrown it away at a chance for power and fame.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:40 PM
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18. I said something very similar the other day.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 12:49 PM
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20. Yes, thank you for pulling that back up...
I saw that thread title the other day, was going to click and comment on it on how disappointed I was in him (mccain). But I got called away and it went off the board and I forgot :)..
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 05:52 PM
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23. The scary thing is how many otherwise
good and sensible Democrats, including waaay too many here on DU who thought McCain was just fine four years ago and fantasized having him on the ticket. At least by now most of those clearly understand that McCain is NOT one of us, but a lot of those planning to vote for him simply don't get it that he's not pro-choice any more, will cheerfully tax the middle classes while giving tax breaks to his rich friends and on and on.
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