If your crying about Kerry's campain you are saying your smarter....

[cheshire]

You need to back him, trust him and be patient. He proved he's a fighter at after the Viet Nam war and nothing has changed that. Don't assume you know more than a man that is in his position. Buck up and stop being defeatist.

[molly]

1. Exactly!

[mb7588a]

2. hear hear!

and get out to your local campaign office and HELP HELP HELP VOLUNTEER VOLUNTEER VOLUNTEER! For the love of the U.S.A VOLUNTEER!

[thinkingwoman]

3. with all due respect

could you please use you're instead of your when appropriate?

It's not elitist. It's just grammatically correct. Sorry, but this is a serious pet peeve of mine.

[cheshire]

5. probably not concidering I have no clue as to your reference and I

don't post to please everyone because it I did you would still not be happy. But I might suggest you stay on point and really do something about a much more important issue. Thank you and have a change of administation. inform on

[BillZBubb]

4. Baloney!

I'm probably not as smart as Mike Dukakis, but I could tell his campaign was a friggin disaster all along. Right now Kerry isn't doing that badly, but he's getting close.

It has nothing to do with being a defeatist. It has everything to do with urging them to FIGHT TO WIN. If the rumors about a Kerry campaign shakeup are true, maybe us "cryers" are on the right track!

[molly]

6. There are many different ways to fight

the right way is logically with strategy.

[cheshire]

7. Please send a note with your donation. Putting it out here send a ...

message to all on here that we can't count on one more person at a time we all need encouragement. It's not about being right but doing right.

[DemBones DemBones]

9. Right you are. . . and if Kerry manages

to lose this race, we all lose. We have a right to be concerned.

[Paradise]

13. I second the Baloney! n/t

[LibDemAlways]

16. I agree with you.

If this were a boxing match Kerry would need to get the hell off the ropes and start swinging back with everything he has.

His "opponent" is a shit-for-brains AWOL draft dodger who has presided over a terrible economy and war for oil and profit. With no record to run on, he's resorting to smear after smear.

The repukes are relentless and they have the media on their side. Kerry needs to start telling the truth about the chimp in language that will force the corporate whores to take notice. Words like "liars" and "cowards" would be a good place to start.

[HootieMcBoob]

29. Hey!

You take your Valium and put your head back in the sand where it belongs. No constructive criticism allowed.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. Well, if he's a "fighter" he damned sure better start fighting.

So far, it's been a lot of "not as bad as" the Goober-in-Chief, followed by silence about Iraq and how he would get us out.

For a fighter, he's got to learn that jabbing is swell, but you got to throw some serious punches to win.

[Democat]

10. We trusted the Democratic candidates in 2002 and 2000

Look where that go us.

Kerry needs to come out fighting soon.

There are now articles about a possible campaign shakeup. That would all but prove that "chicken littles" on DU were at least partially right.

Kerry can win this, but he has already made some strategic mistakes. Can you blame people for being worried?

[pacalo]

11. Indeed! I don't understand the defeatism going on...

The jerks have to have their time in the sun, too, but the big mistake is watching their ignorant remarks. Stop watching & keep your blood pressure down.

Whenever you get discouraged, remember that Kerry is known for being a strong finisher. And remember the two-mile long protest in NYC on Sunday...just imagine how many people across the U.S. couldn't make the trip to NYC to join them! And remember that right is right, wrong is wrong: Dubya is NOT going to win (fairly).

[atreides1]

12. Confused In Tucson

So what you're saying is that asking questions, revealing fears, is being defeatist.

So we are regulated to asking only positive questions, to trust totally without question, to not air our concerns.

"Don't assume you know more than a man in his position"

So if a doctor tells me that an operation will be a success, I should believe and have no concerns, I should not ask questions because the doctor is smarter then I am?

I support John Kerry, I have donated, I have sent letters and e-mails to John McCain, Bob Dole, and other Republican politicians questioning why they have done what they have done.

But just because I back and trust Kerry, does not remove my right to ask questions about things that I'm concerned with. And like so many I will remain patient and see what the Kerry/Edwards campaign does after the RNC convention. But if others are not so patient then we should not discourage them from airing their concerns, at least to me it doesn't sound like the right thing to do.

I personnaly have a problem with blind trust, it's a quirk of mine.

[Paradise]

14. Funny thing, I've got the same 'quirk'! n/t

[barb162]

17. me too

Kerry better come out swinging soon. Campaigning like it was ten years ago aint gonna work in this environment. Kerry has to get fired up...I know he can do it.

[cheshire]

18. Well you are still assuming, I see it so much on here I feel sad and

I am saying you may be looking at it from a negative point of view and I'm asking what are you doing that is positive?

[Armstead]

15. No we're not as "smart" -- but that's what is so frustrating

My feeling is that I'm not a political expert, but we can see screw ups, or missed opporftunities based on ordinary common sense.

That's what's so frustrating. If us amateurs can see these things, why doesn't Kerry and the other so-called experts?

[lagniappe]

19. Well, I was really pissed at the Gore campaign in 2000, and it looks

like we have the same approach in 2004. I am convinced Kerry will win, but I would like to see a little more fight from the Democrats. Kerry does not have to do it personally.

Kerry needs to take a page from the GOP playbook. He should turn every attack against him and say it is an attack against all veterans. Those purple heart band-aids are an insult to all veterans. What the GOP is saying is that if you served in combat and were lucky enough not to get wounded somehow your service is diminished. All Democrats should be forcefully pointing this out, but the silence is deafening. They should call Bush out and say he is a coward for not condemning these attacks against veterans.

Democrats fight like they have cement shoes.

I'm sorry, but I think I am smarter than some of the so called Democratic experts. Karl Rove certainly is.

[Carla in Ca]

20. I'm feeling low today

How can Mr. Kerry win. The media is not and will not be fair and balanced.
*ush gave us the best example of a flip-flop yesterday when he said "war is not winnable" and today he says it is. The media referred to it as clarifying, not flip-flopping.
The media wants *ush to win, how do you fight that?

[cheshire]

24. Carla snap out of it, I understand just wait till RNC listen to air americ

a Randy Rhodes says dems need to stop this crying, the other media venues are biased. Go to a Dem campain center, get involved. Some days are bad hold on.

[Carla in Ca]

30. Thanks...

I needed that

[pacalo]

21. To contact John Kerry...

Call his campaign headquarters:

202-712-3000
202-712-3001 (fax)
202-336-6950 (TTY)

I agree with all of you: We need to see the fighting side of John Kerry. Most people didn't know Howard Dean from Adam when he first started campaigning, yet his anger gave him a huge following of devoted followers.

We're mad & we're not going to take it anymore -- fuggedaboutit!

[mzmolly]

22. Actually Kerry isn't shaking things up because he's "happy" with how

things are going. He's doing so because he, like us recognizes a change is needed.

Thus, I do BACK him, and I appreciate him making the necessary changes to beat *. :hi:

[mondo joe]

23. Isn't that what was said about supporting the Iraq war?

I don't accept the ay Kerry is running his campaign. I'll vote for him, but I don't like what he's doing now.

I don't really much care what he proved in Viet Nam. I want to see that he's a fighter NOW.

I've given money to the Kerry campaign, and to the DNC. But I'm not making further contributions until I see my gift is being used well.

[cheshire]

26. while I understand I am still giving because he needs $ to fight..

As he has promised. I'm not blindly following him, I know him. He is an honest man.

[mondo joe]

28. I believe in results. No more $ from me until I see some.

It pains me to say this but today I decided that if Kerry's not going to fight back I'm not going to contribute anything more to the DNC.

I've already given and I'm prepared to give more. They just need to show me that it's not a waste of my dollars.

[NeoConsSuck]

25. I believe in being pessimistic..

which causes me to reach down and fight harder. And the new polls sure don't bring a smile to my face:

http://www.electoral-vote.com

[cheshire]

27. Try pollingpoint.com

[PurityOfEssence]

31. Ridiculous black-and-white thinking

If this party is about anything, it's about calling a spade a spade and dealing with reality. That entails complexity and it also entails fighting against barroom brawlers. If you're afraid of questioning the powers that be, you're assuming that people will be hopelessly becalmed by any adversity.

Wringing one's hands and cursing the idiocy of the campaign doesn't accomplish a damned thing, I'll agree with you on that, but ignoring failings and tactical errors is foolish. That's what imperious reactionaries do, and even though they may prosper in the short run, it's a path that leads to failure. They do listen to us, and when we speak out, it can be used by those within the system who are like-minded. That's productive. To fall in behind those who are our "betters" is a slave mentality, and if it's to be denigrated by blustering accusations of presuming one smarter than the campaign operatives, then so be it; maybe we are. They screwed up on the Swift Boat issue, and it's endemic of the concept of "rising above it"; our opponents need to be vilified, because they ARE skunks. To not say so is to take away the prime reason for getting rid of them

To criticize what's being done MUST be accompanied with a specific remedy to the mistake, otherwise, it's just the pissiness of the critic speaking.

I don't think the campaign is hitting hard enough, and that doesn't make me defeatist or obfuscatory if I suggest avenues that should be taken.