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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 05:16 PM
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OK, this post about BBV is freaking me out.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2277059#2290081

Could Bush really steal California when so many know it's a blue state?

I'm in California. What do we do????
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 05:19 PM
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1. the Machijes were disallowed
but that said we need to keep our eyes on the price.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 05:36 PM
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4. No, Nadin....the Atty. General and Governor have over-ruled SoS Shelley
The machines are now GOING TO BE ALLOWED. Also, Shelley's funds to do the election audits have now been confiscated by Gv. Gropernator; an entirely illegal act, and unrelated to any charges they're trying to bring against Shelley in order to undercut his credibility in office. In other words, since Shelley was going to nix Diebold, the powers that be are bringing him down, and GIVING DIEBOLD THE GO AHEAD.

So...yes....the post I wrote in the Plame thread is absolutely on target: Diebold is a "go" in California, and the efforts to stop them have been reversed.

That's why the media polls are now calling California a "tie"....the fix is in. The media are part and parcel of the voting machine fraternity, so they will already know who to call elections for, and will post "polls" to back up what they know.

It's the nightmare we wake up to find out is true.

Please go to the BBV threads in GD....all the info is there, and see the links in the post provided.

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 05:43 PM
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7. money is always a concern
but you should still edit 'price' to 'prize'.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 05:23 PM
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2. the threat of BBV stealing the election is very real, 30% of ALL votes
will be cast via BBV for November
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 05:27 PM
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3. It's primed and ready for the stealing.
Just look at what's going on there. It's pathetic. There WAS a reason for the Gray Davis recall and it wasn't just because of the energy thing. That was a PRETEXT. It was so they would have a repuke Governor so they could steal Ca. It's RIPE and READY for them. :grr:
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 05:38 PM
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5. That was a PRETEXT
Are they going to make Enron pay back what they stole?

That could be another reason for installing the gropenator. Last I heard he is supposed to lay down on that one... let them go... let the people take it up the backside regarding the Enron thievery. Wouldn't surprise me none... not with these guys. I am sure they are putting something in the water... ain't nobody thinking right anymore.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 05:42 PM
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6. Thank you for bringing this discussion over here, Ladyhawk.
Edited on Tue Aug-31-04 05:45 PM by loudsue
I'm sorry it's starting to freak you out, but there are a bunch of us who have been really active on this issue, and we are WAY BEYOND freaked out right now.

California goes for bush if these machines go ahead. And Schwarzenegger just gave them the go-ahead. It was just one more coup by the neocons who got Schwarzenegger elected in the first place....he makes it easier to get Diebold a clear passage to do their dirty work.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:09 PM
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9. I said, during the recall, that
Edited on Tue Aug-31-04 06:10 PM by in_cog_ni_to
THAT was what they were up to and I was right. People just kept saying...no, no, no, Ahhhhnold is a "moderate".... Davis sucks as a Governor. DEMOCRATS ACTUALLY VOTED FOR AHHHHHNOLD!!! DEMOCRATS!!!!!! NO one looked at the BIG PICTURE! It was SO OBVIOUS what they were doing. If Kerry wins Ca. I'll apologize to all Californians, but as I see it from here, Ca. is GONE. It was set up the day Izza started the recall. :grr:
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GmoneyOwnsAll Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:07 PM
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8. Then I hope you Californians..
Edited on Tue Aug-31-04 06:09 PM by GmoneyOwnsAll
are preparing a huge protest. Look people. You really need to wake up. I'm getting sick and tired of people saying that they will just stick it out another four years if Bush wins. Newsflash: it will be too late by then. We all know they are NOT going to win farely. Bush is unelectable. So they WILL steal it. I remember the sign in the NY protest..."Stop whinning, start a revolution." I suggest we listen to that sign and it blows my mind that not one person has even started preparing a national protest. Well, Malloy mentioned it actually. But it's insane that no one has actually started preparing for it. Even with a paper trail, I dont trust these machines. Ironic isnt it. Arnold's last movie, Terminator 3:Rise of the Machines. Heh, it's these voting machines that are going to bring upon judgment day. Unless we start a revolution now!! Good God people wake up and smell the damn reality!
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:15 PM
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10. California
I, too, have been worried lately. A SUSA poll had Kerry up by only 3 points a few weeks ago but another post said not to worry about it. Then I hear that Sec of State Shelley won't have a meeting with BBV to show the machine flaws. Yikes!

Here is what I have done:
1. Ignore SUSA polls
2. Sent in for absentee ballot(my husband,too). It is the only way to insure a paper trail.
3. Gave $50.00 to Kerry/Edwards (all we can do right now)
4. Cut down on news
5. Wait for Diane Feinstein to work her magic(soon, I hope!)
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:28 PM
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11. Carla, if you're in California DON'T WAIT FOR FEINSTEIN!!!
Get active NOW!! People in California need to be on the Atty. General and Schwarzenegger and the media like RIGHT NOW. You need to be all over the place, getting in with the www.blackboxvoting.org folks, and the http://www.votersunite.org/default.asp folks.

They'll give you guidance on how to proceed.

PLEASE, CALIFORNIANS EVERYWHERE!!! Jump on this like a chicken on a June bug!!!!

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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 06:49 PM
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12. LA County which is by far the largest county and also gives
the Democrats a significant percentage of all votes does not use touchscreen machines. Neither does San Francisco county which is the second biggest Democratic county.

To fix the election the count in the BBV counties would have to be so skewed it will be impossible to hide.

As an aside, I've been working voter registration tables all over the San Fernando Valley in LA County and I've never seen pro-Democratic sentiment as high as it is now. In addition almost 10% of all registrations are for people switching from Republican to the Democratic Party. California can't be stolen. I'm far more concerned about other battleground states.

Also the allegation that Ahnuld's election was fixed by BBV is off the mark. Unfortunately I personally know at least 20 Democrats who voted for him and everyone I know had the same experience.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-04 12:49 AM
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14. California
Then explain to me why my state has gone from "strong" Kerry to "weak" Kerry in one week!
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-04 08:12 PM
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13. Kick it! n/t
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