Oh dear lord look at this: Bush - 280; Kerry - 242

[AlFrankenFan]

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

I know it's probably a jump because of the RNC, but it's scary for me to see states like Pennsylvania turn red. :scared:

[cthrumatrix]

1. already debunked.... right wing polls for key states...wait a few days

[AlFrankenFan]

2. oh i see

and btw, sorry mods for putting it in the wrong thread. x(

[JohnKleeb]

10. and remember Kerry in the strench is at his best

He's neck and neck with Bush now, and my bet is he'll start to pull away soon.

[papau]

16. Kerry leads or is tied in all except LAT & Gallup - and this is bad?

BUSH vs. KERRY: Among likely voters; with leaners, where available. (See registered voters.)


Survey ...................End Date Bush% Kerry% Margin Includes RunningMates?

ABC/Washington Post...... 8/29....49..49.......0......n/a

Time(without leaners).... 8/26... 46..46.......0.......Y

FOX/Opinion Dynamics..... 8/25....44..45.......1...... N

Gallup....................... 8/25....50..47.......3.......Y

NPR........................ 8/24....45..50.......5.......N


BUSH vs. KERRY: Among registered voters; with leaners, where available. (See likely voters.)

Survey ...................End Date Bush% Kerry% Margin Includes RunningMates?

ABC/Washington Post...... 8/29....48..49.......1......n/a

Gallup....................... 8/25....47..48.......1.......Y

Los Angeles Times........ 8/24....49..46.......3.......Y

IBD/CSM/TIPP............. 8/23....44..44.......0.......N

[hippiegranny]

3. this is a freeper site

read the contributor rants.

[Shadder]

5. This is NOT a freeper site

The webmaster has come out several times and stated that he is for Kerry, but in terms of the website he is for truth and seems to be doing a good job of reporting what the polls are saying. It's not his fault that the polls may be skewed one way or the other.

[LTR]

12. The guy running the site is a leftie

But he plays it fair.

His methodology is based solely on the latest poll in a particular state. He uses virtually all the most popular polling organizations.

This one, on the other hand, is run by a right winger:

http://www.dalythoughts.com/ecb.htm

[Robbien]

4. Oh dear! woe is us! We are Dooooomed! Throw in the towel you say!

Oh dear look at how bad "our side" is doing. We are going to loooosssse. Sob, Sob.

What a crock. Why write such defeatist thread titles?

Every time I see these type of thread titles I stongly believe the thread originator is a person who is working for Bush who is only at DU to try and demoralize liberals/progressives.

[MikeyMil]

15. Polls

I don't know about you, but I'm scared shitless.
Kerry better do something soon to turn this around or were looking at 4 more years of HELL!

[Qutzupalotl]

17. Get a grip.

This is their convention week. Kerry's ads come out Friday. We're probably looking at a negative "bounce" for Bush when this week is over.

[AlFrankenFan]

21. I did not say that nor did I imply that!

and i don't want to start a flamewar of any kind. and i resent your comments on me. it just freaked my out when I saw it because this site had never shown kerry losing electorally. i never implied that we're going to lose at all. it's probably just a goddamned jump from the rnc. next time i'll think twice about posting threads like this so i don't get so insulted by a fellow DUer.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

6. There's no way Pennsylvania will turn red in Nov n/t

[Endangered Specie]

7. Funny how ALL the new polls are bloody Strategic-'narrow'-Vision...

[Ducks In A Row]

8. noticed that also.

[loudsue]

9. This map is wrong... California's 55 electoral votes will go for Bush....

Previously, the Black Box Voting Patriots brought Sec. of State Shelley on board about how the Diebold machines are so easily gerrymandered, and presented evidence of previous gerrymandering during the recall election.

Shelley SHUT DOWN Diebold in California, and even reported the evidence to the Atty. General's office in Sacramento.

Then Diebold-installed Governor Schwarzenegger got involved, and the neocons started to smear Sec. of State Shelley, and brought campaign finance charges against Shelley. Immediately, the Governor CONFISCATED Federal Funds from Shelleys office that were to BE USED TO AUDIT the election in California, to insure an accurate election. AND the Governor gave Diebold the go-ahead to use their machines in the elections!!

So...we need to redraw the map, and put California in Bush's column. In other words, unless a few million people take to the streets in California RIGHT NOW, and get Diebold run out of town on a rail, we're stuck with bush.

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=850

and www.blackboxvoting.org

Read 'em and weep.

:kick::kick:

[AnewerWay]

11. Is this for real? If we lose CA we are DOOMED!!!

Didn't Reagan win CA the last time for the Nazi party?

How can this Hitler attack on Kerry be stopped?

[loudsue]

13. How can it be stopped??

If EVERYONE gets REALLY active, REALLY fast!!

Go follow the links I provided and sign up, and start making calls and visits, and contribute funds to the groups trying to stop this insanity!!

It's doable if we'll all hit this issue hard and hit it now!!

Over at GD forum, there's some group trying to get emergency legislation passed to make ALL FEDERAL election ballots pencil and paper for November. I think it's an EXCELLENT idea!!! If we don't stop this insanity right now, we're toast.

:kick::kick::kick::kick:

[agincourt]

20. Blackbox voting,

is my greatest fear. It's easy to steal an election when you have a media praising bush constantly after the fact. Electronically stolen elections lubricated by the media are far more dangerous than any shit-boat books or ads.

[Killarney]

14. It's the Strategic Vision polls screwing it up.

They're a GOP company. If you mouse over the states, it says which poll they're going by. Don't count the SV ones. Bushit. Soon, other polls will come out (zogby, etc) and it'll go back to Kerry.

[bobbyboucher]

18. Is it over?

Holy shit, Kerry lost and I didn't even get to vote.

[gatorboy]

19. It makes sense considering the odd boost for Bush in California,

over such a short time. Fix the polling now so when he wins California in November through another fix, it doesn't look so sleazy.