Should we give the Bush twins a break?

[Catherine Vincent]

I never thought I'd be saying this but they did as well as they probably wanted to. I'm sure they didn't write the speech or the lame jokes. A lot of the freepers thought they were lame. Me thinks they are secretly on our side but feel they have to support their doofus daddy.

[starbuck6446]

1. No!

NO! Chelsea, the Kerry girls, and Cate Edwards were all able to support their fathers without looking like idiots.

[jab105]

21. Stop it...they didn't they were saying that THEIR hamster died...

but Kerry's hamster lived causes Kerry rescued it...that was NOT against the Kerry girls at all...

I thought it was a very non-Christian right conservative fundamentalist republican!!

[LTR]

2. They called out the Kerry girls!

Game on!

[physioex]

8. Exactly...

He He He He My parents are soo cool.
He He He Like we watch Sex and the City
He He He Like Outkast is soo awersome
He He He

[Eric J in MN]

11. What do you mean by ""They called out the Kerry girls?" nt

nt

[LTR]

18. They got in a little dig at Vanessa and Alex

They just don't compare.

[KoKo]

41. They did take stab at Kerry girls...Bush Twins are Dad and Bab's clones

act dumb, but snipe at the people around you. Laugh, snigger and if you are a Bush you can get away with it. They were disgusting...Sex in the City and "Outlaw?"

Not one personal story about their growing up and why we should care about their Dad...or anything about "family."

[cmf]

3. hell no!

did they give Chelsea a break? And Chelsea was an actual kid at the time. These two brainiacs are adults.

[IronLionZion]

20. Rush called her a dog

talking about it on a forum is just as bad as doing that on nationally syndicated radio

[wurzel]

30. The only asshole I know who got on Chelsea was Rush.

Bush's daughters are irrelevant.

[cmf]

36. What about John McCain

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father."

Asshole. :grr:

They were making fun of her physical appearance, which she can't do anything about. The Bushettes are morons. I guess they can't help it either, given their parentage. But the both graduated from college - I expect better.

[wurzel]

49. Are you saying john McCain said that?

I just cannot imagine it.

[fujiyama]

51. He did

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

It was at a republican fundraiser. He later apologized to Clinton. The press never actually reported what the joke was. McCain was (and still probably is) a media darling.

[wurzel]

56. I lost my respect for him a little late.

[union_maid]

4. They're 22, not 12

We don't have to give them that much of a break. If they're idiots, and I don't know..haven't ever heard them speak...then let fly.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

5. No.

They are now combatants. By their own free will.

Game on.

[JPJones]

6. You're right that their hearts aren't into it. n/t

[Momgonepostal]

17. You're right

They did say they weren't very political, but I wonder if part of it is that they don't particularly agree with a lot of elements of the Repub platform?

My dad was a republican and if he'd run for office and asked me to speak in his behalf, I would have sounded lame, too.

[Scorpious_Maximus]

7. NFW n/t

[Sugarbleus]

9. I didn't hear what they said. However, people raked Chelsea

Clinton over the coals something aweful when they were in office.

And IF Bush wants to make FAMILY VALUES the "center piece"of his platform, then I think that pointing out his and laura's and the twin's failures as wholesome creatures IS FAIR GAME.

They claim that Kerry was making his war record the "center piece" of his campaign (which he was not) and proceeded to undermine him by using his service (with lies,albeit) record against him.

ALL IS FAIR....in times like these, as long as we tell the TRUTH.

[mondo joe]

10. Not a chance. They're adults making choices.

I never said much of anything about them before now.

But they're adults, out of school, and they've joined the campaign.

And given what's been said about Chelsea Clinton and the Kerry daughters, they don't deserve even as much respect as I've given.

[Lindacooks]

12. HELL NO

[Media_Lies_Daily]

13. Hell, no! Did the GOPers give Chelsea Clinton or....

...Amy Carter a break?

[topanga]

14. Show some class people.

We should show our class by just ignoring them. Women should not be attacked like is happening here, it is just unseemlhy.

[Catherine Vincent]

24. It amazes me when someone with less than 5 posts

attempts to tell DUers how to behave.

[topanga]

57. Why?

Do DU'ers have a lock on manners?

Mysogeny is any form is just plain wrong, sorry if you feel otherwise.

[The Icon Painter]

61. Manners

DU members are generally exceptionally courteous. If you stay around long enough, you will discover that. It's just that you hit us on a sore toe. We don't like grown men (and women) taking nasty shots at little girls (or boys), but it is a fact that the Bush twins have with apparent willingness exposed themselves to the slings and arrows of an unusually nasty political campaign. I honestly don't think they're all that fragile. At least the party pictures of them seem to show that they're pretty robust at wrestling.

[oasis]

29. The twins announced that they were taking part in Daddy's campaign. They

are no threat to anyone like Karen Hughes or Karl Rove, but they have entered into the political arena and must suffer the slings and arrows that come with the territory.

This is not hopscotch.

[ClassicPalm]

64. Women should not be attacked?

Be a person man or women, if they enter the political arena as a candidate, spokesperson for a candidate, or general supporter of a candidate they are fair game.

However, the scope of that fair game should be limited to things they say and do, not ones physical apperence as far to often the case has been with regardes to the twins, and Chelsea in the past.

If one must reduce themselves to attacking a persons physical apperence, they have lost the debate.

[madmax]

15. These girls have had every break in life

wealth, Yale and Texas A&M University educations. They can barely speak and they DRESS LIKE SHIT!!

They fall down drunk in bars and use phoney ID's to get served. Have they ever done any charity work? They're growing up just like their father. Spoiled rich kids.

[ClassicPalm]

65. Fake IDs!!! THE HORROR!

Man, they used fake IDs!!!

That is one thing that I will never criticize them about. Hell, I suspect that greater than 90% of college kids have them.

[Fleshdancer]

16. I just hate hearing people calling them "sluts"

They're adults and making fun of their political ideology, behavior, or even their clothes doesn't bother me. But attacking their sexuality, something we obviously know nothing about, is ridiculous and lazy.

I just think if you're going to dislike someone, you should have a real reason, you know? Besides, it's not like people here look at that Bush nephew (Billy?) on TV and call HIM a slut. Hell, didn't Bush Sr have a girlfriend? Shouldn't HE be the Bush "slut"?

[soothsayer]

19. Of course not. All celebs are fair game! Not much to say about them tho

They are just goofy party girls.

[AuntPatsy]

22. No, that is what they want...

My girls are 22 and 23 and even they would not have done such a poor job of acting and bad acting it was, they are obviously just as liberal as good ole daddy was back before he found Jesus....when the blond one stuck her toungue out at reporters, it was considered cute by the media, I am sure you would know what would have happened had one of Kerry's girls done the same...


That age is no excuse for that little dig on Kerry's daughters when tempers are so strained as it is, Kerrys daughters are two very classy young women as well as is Edwards daughter.......

[Athame]

45. I got the impression

that they (read Karen Hughes) were going for the "we're real" effect. When Barbara and Jenna said that their hamster, ummm, didn't make it, they were saying WE ARE REAL, not fake fairy tales like the Kerry girls. They talked about being young and irresponsible, defusing the comparison, they talked about their grandmother's uncoolness. It was a balm for all those parents who don't have perfect children and who get really sick of the parents who parade their perfect offspring or put on the bumper stickers that say Proud Parent of an Honor Student,,,

yes, their jokes fell flat, and yes, I was embarrassed for them, but I think the strategy worked exactly as Karen wanted it to. Let's face it, she did the best she could with what she had to work with.

[cally]

23. No, they entered the campaign when the Kerry

daughters were helping so much. They have entered the political realm and are now fair game. I felt somewhat sorry for them when they were younger but now they are campaigning.

[PA Democrat]

25. No

Every time I think of another 20 year old or 18 or 19 year old dying in their daddy's war on Iraq, I find their insipid giggling more repulsive.

While they joke about Sex in the City, someone else's child is dying in Iraq.

[Rabelais]

26. Im afraid to say yes

I might be a Rove plant if I think we should give them a break out of common decency and respect.

[MoonRiver]

27. If they are secretly on our side, they don't want to be given a break.

They are doing this to destroy their father's reign of terror. More power

[Raven]

28. NONONO!

They took the podium...they made damned fools of themselves...NO!

[mitchum]

31. FUCK NO! NO BREAKS! NO QUARTER!

They are campaigning for that sonofabitch (and they will make out like bandits with their BFEE inheritance)

[Algorem]

32. is ther a way to find out how much they're being paid by bush campaign?

and Jenna seems mildly retarded to me.

[despairing optimist]

33. I'll give them a break

on the day after Election Day. They can help Dad and Mums start packing.

[readmylips]

34. I want to give them a break....

break their foking necks.

[Entente]

35. They are bimbos just like their father

I have to say it b/c I am afraid they will run for the presidency together. You know, to make a full brain.

[JohnLocke]

37. No (nt).

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

38. The Bush Twins are the only thing connected to Bush that I don't hate

I thought their open and uncomplicated, non-hypocritical love of alcohol, marijuana, and sex has been the only refreshing things about the Bush administration during the last 4 years. They're apolitical and I can't fault them for wanting to help their father, as it shows loyalty. The people who probably hate them the most are the Freepazoids, who confine their own orgies, drinking, and drug use to behind closed doors.

[bread_and_roses]

39. Yes, they are neither delegates nor candidates nor

officials nor legislators. They are young enough to be seen as the unelected fraud's "children" and in the absence of any policy role, or as far as I know even any job, they get a "buy" from most people on supporting a parent.

Unlike Laura, who chose to marry and stick with the amoral, viscious, spoon-fed, helpless narcissistic personality occupying the White House - and who, as "first lady" can be considered part of the administration - they didn't get to choose their parents.

The number of people who vote for puppet because they like his twins are not going to decide the election.

Attacking family who are not themselves part of the administration is counter-productive, it gets us nowhere.

[Apple Smoothie]

53. I completely agree...

let comedians do the dirty work.

[mbali]

54. No - but they are now convention speakers and, thus, fair game

[Wednesdays]

40. I won't even get into the delivery...

but, it's the material that gets me...calling attention to their drinking habits? What ferchrissakes were they thinking when they wrote this stuff?

[dweller]

42. No, of course not

The are tied neck to neck with the Olson twins for acceptance in Mensa.

We shouldn' t play favorites here.

:eyes:
dp

[slojim240]

43. Maybe Laura and GW are just unfit parents?

The girls are doing the best with what they have been taught.
:shrug:

[WI_DEM]

44. Absolutely, Not

They are smart enough to know what they were doing.

[gauguin57]

46. OK, I'll preface this by saying I hate all things GOP, but ...

... I thought the Bush twins did OK for a couple of goofballs. They are goofy 21-year-olds. Silly and goofy.

And they gave a silly, goofy little speech. I can't believe the pundits are wasting so much breath on it ... it was meant as a fluffy little interlude, and that's what it was.

I say lighten up and concentrate on all the eff-ing liars that have been strutting their stuff on that stage for the past two days. LIARS! The Bush twins, yesterday's news already.

Now if they or George P. Bush try to run for president someday, THEN we'll have an issue!

[Catt03]

47. Absolutely not

Come on...They are brats.

on edit:

Politics, unfortunately, has become a blood sport. We have 64 days left and we're done being nicey nice..... all golves are off.

[0rganism]

48. You know, back in June I would have said yes

After the sick disgusting bullshit the republican operatives have pulled over the last two months, the bush twins are fair game. In fact, anyone who has ever interacted with the bushes is fair game.

The repukes are playing for keeps now. It'd be stupid to give them a break on their zombie children.

[FrenchieCat]

50. Many 21 year olds are dying

in Iraq. Many joined the army because they do not have rich parents who can provide them with all they want and more than what they need.

I think that it's outrageous for these girls, who's father is RESPONSIBLE (Just in case someone reads this post to GWB) for the death of many young people, to act silly and giggle, etc.... in a political setting.

Nearly 3,000 died on 9/11....1,000 died in Iraq, 6,000 mamed...and we are treated to giggling fools who just graduated from college! And they dared say they needed something to do. Go feed some hungry people....better yet, join the goddam army!

These girls should be ashamed to be related to that bumbling idiot they call "dad".

[mbali]

52. Right up until they walked onto the convention stage to shill for Dad

Now that they've placed themselves into the arena, they're fair game.

Can't have it both ways...

[fujiyama]

55. No but

I don't find them very important. As long as they don't actually speak about anything politically I don't care. I'll just find them irrelevant and they seem like showpieces.

Laura on the other hand is a different case. She's attacked Kerry and Edwards on various issues. She deserves whatever scorn she gets.

[Irishladdie]

No Way!! They damn near crucified Chelsea!!

[Irishladdie]

58. No Way!! They damn near crucified Chelsea!!

[sangh0]

59. I'll give the Bush* girls a break

when Jeb Bush* gives the Schiavo's a break

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x714049

[democratreformed]

60. No break! They are working to help enable the current

misadministration!

[Walt Starr]

62. Nope, they are open to every nasty dirty thing we can doi

including plastering the leg spread photo of Jenna everywhere!

[against all enemies]

63. Sure, buy them a drink. or two.

[Kingshakabobo]

66. Let them join the Army and they get a break

I wonder if dad counsels them to consider joining the service? Republicans and that ilk like to counsel people.

Dad tells us we are in a life or death struggle? Maybe his kids should join up and serve.

I'd love to see the look on his face if someone could get that question in.