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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:35 PM
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Chuck Todd on MSNBC just now.............if some states do not "even out" before the debates
then the "Palin Bounce" may have a hardening effect, and Obama may have some problem.
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:36 PM
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1. He's full of shit as usual.
Chuck Todd is a right wing tool.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:22 PM
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28. Todd is great with numbers, just not with opinion nt
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:32 PM
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34. I don't even think he's that great with numbers. He manipulates the numbers
to fit his opinion.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:36 PM
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2. IGNORE him. There is no basis for this 'fact'.
I had eight years in political polling.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:36 PM
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3. Todd is sure sold on that "Palin bounce" idea of his...
n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:38 PM
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12. I think he's on the PAYROLL of the "bounce". . . If it goes away
he loses his bonus.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:31 PM
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33. Here's what Gallup admitted about that Palin Bounce
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 03:32 PM by Overseas
Edited to add Thanks to ProSense for Gallup story:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

About a deliberate decision by Gallup and USA Today to release a McSame post convention bounce poll because it was so much more favorable to him than any other poll ever,

but not to release any post convention bounce poll on Obama.

==========

And here's some background on Rasmussen from DarthDem

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:37 PM
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4. and I say it's all bullshit
and if McCain and his haus frau keep up the idiocy, more than half of Republican voters will be staying home this time.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:37 PM
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5. Just ignore him...
Seriously. He works for rightwing hacks.
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:37 PM
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6. Some are "evening out" as we speak... some have even flipped to US.
What is he talking about?
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:37 PM
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7. fuck Chuck...he's a hack like Lurch Gregory...n/t
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:37 PM
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8. he's so full of shit
The Palin bounce has already started to deflate - her approval numbers have been steadily going down since her ABC interview.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:37 PM
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9. PCIntern on Chuckie Todd
the BS artist extraordinaire: if you don't even-out your stilted coverage before sundown, then the peter-meter may have a hardening effect, and your ratings may have a problem.

asshole.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:37 PM
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10. Please he is such a cheap whore, I don't even listen to him
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:37 PM
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11. LOL, fascinating that most of us replied the same thing, and many of the same words...
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 02:38 PM by 1corona4u
LOL
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:39 PM
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14. I will join in with my
summation of chuck the mediawhore todd. Oooops, I just did.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:38 PM
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13. I really don't give a flying monkey poo what Chuck Todd says.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:39 PM
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15. Just a media time filler piece for the 24/7 news cycle... silly stuff
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:41 PM
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16. more "brilliant" analysis from Chucky T......
Sometimes I like him, but he's a corp monkey just like the rest of them, who needs a horserace. I remember in March, he would say that Clinton needed a 20 point win in PA to have any chance of beating Obama for the nomination, but when that didn't happen, he was in the boat with everyone else, in awe over the 9 point "blowout", and nodding his head along with everyone who was still presenting the horserace. Then, after the primaries, Chuck chuckled and said "Well, it's partly our fault in the media (the Clinton supporters who refused to vote for Obama) too, because the media has been telling the Clinton supporters that they had a fifty fifty chance of the nomination for a while, when the fact is that she had a much bigger hurdle than was presented after February. They were sort of lead on." No shit, Todd. I wonder if he had a talking to from his handlers after the hot mike moment when he said that Palin was gimicky.
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aquamarina Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:41 PM
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17. For the love of god, turn the M$M OFF.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:42 PM
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18. What Polls are he looking at?
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:42 PM
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19. RACISM. Racism folks...this ALL boils down to racism. Pure and simple.
The calculus of the McGrampy & Nazi Girl party is to co-opt the Obama message knowing that if there isn't much of a difference between the candidates then most whites will vote for the "white party."

J
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:46 PM
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23. Most salient point on this board today.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:42 PM
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20. Dupe n/t
Edited on Mon Sep-15-08 02:42 PM by NoodleyAppendage
The calculus of the McGrampy & Nazi Girl party is to co-opt the Obama message knowing that if there isn't much of a difference between the candidates then most whites will vote for the "white party."

J
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:43 PM
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21. b-o-y-c-o-t-t n/t
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:43 PM
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22. I turned that ass off! What Palin Bounce? They want to distrort
the truth and make people believe this election is all but over. I hate CNN and MSNBC at this point.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:47 PM
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24. Describe "even out"... is Obama pulling ahead in Virginia an "evening out"?
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JBoris Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 02:51 PM
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25. How about reporting issues instead of treating this thing like a sports race, you M$M whores!
They sound less like reporters, and more like sports announcers every year. Then there is Kieth O, who actually is a sports announcer, and he manages to talk about issues, even as he beats up bush/McC/Palin.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:02 PM
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26. I'm new here, and I hope to God you are all right.... you all seem
better informed than a 61 yr. old baby boomer (happily retired)............
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:08 PM
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27. hi mom
:hug:
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:24 PM
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29. Notice it's always Obama who has the problem, never McCain.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:28 PM
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32. Even as Palin's favorability ratings drop like a rock
Chuck Todd is a fucking sloppy-goateed tool.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:26 PM
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30. There are certain segments that have "hardened", but the idea
that the Religious Right was ever going to vote Democratic wasn't realistic. HOWEVER, where Chuck Todd and the rest of the media haven't focused is the new voters we are getting.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-08 03:28 PM
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31. Chuck Todd wants an Election Night White Board Moment like Broder Wants a Pony
And he's just as likely to get it as Bush is likely to close with 60% approval.

Chuck Todd is officially a lying piece of shit.
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